The Brian Nichols Show

955: Is Trump Right About Tariffs?


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Can tariffs really bring back American greatness—or are they a ticking time bomb for the economy?


In this hard-hitting episode of The Brian Nichols Show, we dive headfirst into one of the most misunderstood and politically charged tools in economics: tariffs. Brian sits down with Aidan Grogan from Young Voices and the American Institute for Economic Research to challenge the prevailing narratives from both the left and right. Are tariffs a weapon for economic revival—or just a tax on the American worker? If you're tired of political echo chambers and want a nuanced take, this is your episode.



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We kick things off by unpacking the emotional and economic appeal of protectionism. Aidan shares his transformation from a self-described protectionist to a proponent of free trade—backed by real-world outcomes from the Trump and Obama-era tariffs. Spoiler: they didn't exactly bring on a new golden age of American manufacturing. From real data to regional impact, this part of the conversation hits home hard.


Then things get personal—and spicy. Brian challenges Aidan with some hard truths from the heartland: empty warehouses, lost jobs, and communities devastated by offshoring. Is it fair to cling to free trade when global competitors like China don’t play by the same rules? What role should national security play in shaping trade policy? Can we have both principle and practicality?


The conversation deepens with a reality check on automation, AI, and the future of work. Are declining manufacturing jobs a result of trade—or tech? And even if robots take over, who’s left to buy the stuff they make? Aidan delivers a masterclass on unintended consequences while Brian pushes back with bold hypotheticals and hard-won sales insights from his B2B world.


Finally, we land on common ground. Could tariffs—used wisely—actually become a tool to reduce trade barriers, not raise them? Can Congress reclaim its rightful power over trade policy? And what’s the real risk of Trump’s tariff tactics becoming more ideology than strategy? This episode isn’t just a podcast—it’s a crash course in economic warfare, political pragmatism, and what it means to play smart on the world stage.



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