If you've been a longtime listener to this show, you know there are several things that we've emphasized over the years like the importance of friendship, healthy masculinity, and growing civil society within our local communities. For the last year, I have been hosting a podcast for Citizen 7, a local group dedicated to building deep friendships between men with the hope that it will spark redemptive change within Indianapolis. Big Hearted Indy is a podcast about friendship making a difference, and I think you will be encouraged by adding it to your podcast app. 

This is my favorite episode. My cohost Don Palmer and I welcome guest host Dave Neff, Rex Fisher and Mark Nottingham to the podcast to discuss their journeys of navigating careers, family life, and community investments. Listen in as they discuss their experiences with Edge Mentoring, Shepherd Community Center, and their entrepreneurial endeavors, providing valuable insights on balancing faith, work, and relationships in the vibrant city of Indianapolis. 

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In this episode, I talk with Agustina Vergara Cid, an immigration policy expert, to break down the complex issue of birthright citizenship and President Trump's day-one executive order attempting to alter it.

We discuss the history and legal foundation of birthright citizenship, tracing its roots to the 14th Amendment and the 1898 Supreme Court case, Wong Kim Ark, which affirmed that anyone born on U.S. soil (except for children of diplomats) is an American citizen.

Agustina explains how Trump’s executive order aims to deny citizenship to children of non-citizen visa holders and undocumented immigrants—something she believes is a direct constitutional challenge. We explore the motivation behind the order, the likelihood of it surviving court scrutiny, and how immigration laws in Europe and the U.S. differ, particularly in how they impact assimilation.

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Agustina Vergara Cid, LL.B. and LL.M., is a Young Voices contributor focusing on immigration policy. Her commentary has appeared in The Orange County Register, Newsweek, and The Hill. Follow her on X: @agustinavcid

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Ending Birthright Citizenship Won’t Make America Great - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2025/01/29/ending_birthright_citizenship_wont_make_america_great_152263.html

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Chris Spangle kicks off the episode with a deep dive into why Super Bowl halftime shows always spark controversy, tracing the evolution of performances from marching bands to modern artists like Kendrick Lamar and Rihanna. He highlights how reactions often reveal deeper cultural and generational divides, touching on race, media consumption, and changing societal tastes.

In the second half, Chris is joined by Addison Hosner, COO of Young Voices, to discuss presidential pardon powers and their impact on the rule of law. They explore the historical context, the January 6 pardons, and the potential precedent these actions set for the future. Addison offers his expert perspective as an attorney, breaking down the legal and constitutional implications of high-profile pardons and why maintaining trust in the justice system is crucial for America’s future.

Don’t miss this conversation that blends pop culture and politics for a fresh, thought-provoking take.

Addison Hosner is the chief operating officer of Young Voices, based in Washington, D.C., and is a licensed DC and Florida attorney.

Biden’s pardons raised eyebrows, but Trump’s insulted justice itself - https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/5122921-bidens-pardons-raised-eyebrows-but-trumps-insulted-justice-itself/

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This week we dive into the TikTok ban, explaining how Congress passed a law requiring ByteDance to sell TikTok, only for both Biden and Trump to refuse enforcement. Spangle is joined by Ed Tarnowski to break down the implications for the rule of law, executive power, and the growing tension between Congress and the presidency. Plus, Spangle shares his approach to staying informed without being overwhelmed.

Ed Tarnowski is a Policy and Advocacy Director at EdChoice and host of the State of Choice Podcast. At EdChoice, he leads the organization’s advocacy efforts on national policy. He is a young voices contributor. 

A TikTok-ing Time Bomb for the Rule of Law - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2025/01/30/a_tiktok-ing_time_bomb_for_rule_of_law_152273.amp.html

Video - https://youtu.be/qOP2sm5GSKo

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From Nov 28, 2018: Chris Spangle examines what causes wildfires and how we can prevent them. Was Donald Trump right when he said the government makes wildland fires worse? What libertarian principles would significantly reduce both the frequency and damage of wildfires?

Show Notes: https://wearelibertarians.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Wildfire.pdf

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We start out the show with a couple of personal announcements about my family and career, and then Harry Price, Rhinehold and I deal with the fact that it's hard to be a principled libertarian. First, there are some good things the government does at a local level. Secondly, the libertarian ideology is barely popular with libertarians. So I ask them, "what's the point?" Harry gives me a good answer. 

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Caleb Franz, the author of "The Conductor: The Story of Rev. John Rankin, Abolitionism's Essential Founding Father," joins me to share his incredible story and how it applies to our own day. 

The Conductor: The Story of Rev. John Rankin, Abolitionism's Essential Founding Father - https://amzn.to/415fKbl

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Dr. Eric Larson of the Paradocs podcast joins me to discuss what we think RFK Jr. wants to do if confirmed as head of the Health and Human Services division, what he might get done, and some priorities he ought to do to make America healthy again. q

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It is finally over! Donald Trump won the presidency in one of the greatest political comebacks in American history. Why did Trump win, and why did Kamala Harris lose? We look at 2024's fear-based political messaging from both sides and the mental health crisis it caused, the economic frustrations across America, and the disillusionment of younger generations. We also look at the Libertarian Party's fifth-place finish and why, and we touch on the role of local community engagement in political change. 

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In this special election eve edition of CSS, Rhinehold and discuss the latest polls, the impact of voter demographics, and make predictions for the upcoming election. We examine Ann Selzer's polling accuracy, trends in key battleground states, and potential election outcomes for both Trump and Harris. With a focus on early voting statistics, canvassing efforts, and historical context, we provide an in-depth analysis of what could happen on election day and beyond.

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