What happens when the hardest season becomes the catalyst for your biggest expansion?

In this behind-the-scenes jam session, Marsha and Sue pull back the curtain on podcasting, publishing, entrepreneurship, and the gritty reality of building something meaningful. From the early days of figuring it out to the moments where they both said, “We’re never doing this again,” this episode captures the evolution of Outspoken Publishing and the deeper why behind the work.

They talk about the invisible labour behind books, the misconceptions around self-publishing, the emotional weight of collaborative projects, and the power of sharing stories in a noisy online world. This is an honest conversation about growth, grief, resilience, partnership, and choosing impact over ease.

If you’ve ever felt called to write a book, build something bigger than yourself, or step into using your voice, this episode will meet you exactly where you are.

00:01:21 – Sue shares how podcasting started from a quiet nudge while renovating a house

00:05:17 – Leaving comfort at 18 and trusting the ability to “figure it out.”

00:07:03 – Why publishing costs what it costs (and what people don’t see)

00:08:17 – “Your book isn’t finished.” The reality of editing and authenticity

00:10:06 – The 2022 season, where they said, “We’re never doing this again.”

00:12:15 – The meditation download: seeing 40 women holding their books

00:14:41 – The core why: spotlighting stories so people know they’re not alone

00:18:33 – If you won’t use your voice, your people can’t find you

00:20:39 – Sticker shock: the hours, formatting, ISBNs, KDP, and what publishing houses don’t explain

00:24:14 – The importance of proactive authors who market their own stories

00:27:15 – Building a real foundation instead of just “figuring it out.”

00:31:52 – Everything is editable. Perfection isn’t required to start

Marsha Vanwynsberghe — NLP Storytelling Trainer, OUTSPOKEN NLP Coaching Certification, Author, Speaker, and Podcaster

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