Rachel and Kylie discuss Exodus 33.12–23 and Matt 22.15–22, reflecting on Moses's desire for reassurance and to see God, and an attempt to trap Jesus with a question about paying taxes. Along the way we refer to the Jewish Annotated New Testament by Amy-Jill Levine and Marc Zvi Brettler, Ernst Käsemann's On Being a Disciple of the Crucified Nazarene, and a resource on Pharisees. And we also spoke about Preachfest (1–3 November 2023)!