Kelly & Jen talk to Mom, author and blogger, Susan Senator (susansenator.com) and Lyndsey Radcliffe, CEO of Morningstarabatherapy.com and an individual diagnosed on the autism spectrum about the importance and challenge of talking with and including the child/adult with autism into the conversation. To quote Susan's Facebook post: "How the fuck do I get the people in my life to stop talking about Nat in front of him as if he does not understand? When people talk about him in front of him, I die a little on the inside." We do too Susan. Let's chat about how to do this effectively and appropriately as practitioners, parents and family members. With so many newly minted BCBA's we HAVE to train for this and #dobetter. www.susansenator.com Magazine: A different way of seeing: Local business owner changing the national conversation around behavioral science (5/10/20) | Southeast Missourian newspaper, Cape Girardeau, MO (semissourian.com)