we cannot believe we're even saying this, but welcome to our first episode of season two with none other than natalie cassidy: actress, documentary maker, national treasure, mother, big hun, and griever.

we are so chuffed to have had the opportunity to chat with such a kind and hilarious soul, who is doing some amazing work through her documentaries and podcasting. a proper diamond <3

we talk about shock vs anticipatory grief, building a community, being a mother without a mother, grief guilt, and discuss a few of your submissions.apologies for alicia's audio towards the end-the batteries ran out, didn't they!

t/w: mentions of aneurysm and suicide.