In this episode, Amir chats with Bobby Touran, the non-technical CEO and co-founder of Rainbow, an insurance tech company that thrives on strong engineering culture. They dive deep into how non-technical founders can effectively collaborate with technical teams, foster a hybrid office culture, and ensure that engineers are closely aligned with business objectives. Bobby shares how Rainbow maintains a tight feedback loop, how returning to in-office work has shaped their growth, and why AI isn’t necessarily replacing jobs in insurance but transforming them.

🔑 Key Takeaways:

Non-technical founders can be powerful allies to engineering teams by focusing on context, communication, and fostering a collaborative culture.

Being back in the office has served as a key differentiator in attracting engineers who value social interaction and cross-functional communication.

Culture is not static—Bobby emphasizes actively evolving it through regular offsites, tools like Slack Donut, and clear alignment between technical and business teams.

Engineering teams thrive when given real-world context—Rainbow’s practice of dining at insured restaurants is a brilliant example of tying product to user impact.

Transparency and experience matter—Rainbow’s engineering team is senior, engaged in thoughtful discussions on technical debt, and values clear communication around business priorities.

AI is reshaping roles, not removing them—Bobby shares his view that AI will augment rather than replace underwriting and risk assessment functions in insurance.

⏰ Timestamped Highlights:

00:00 – Introduction to Bobby Touran and overview of Rainbow’s mission.

02:10 – Bobby’s approach as a non-technical founder and fostering strong relationships with engineers.

04:43 – Building a healthy engineering org: culture is intentional, not accidental.

07:48 – The importance of engineers understanding the "why" behind product decisions.

10:29 – Why being back in the office twice a week has helped Rainbow’s growth and culture.

15:03 – How engineering and leadership collaborate on roadmap and growth opportunities.

19:03 – Decision-making confidence: balancing business opportunities and engineering cycles.

21:59 – Bobby’s take on AI's role in insurance and how Rainbow is integrating it.

25:43 – Connect with Bobby and explore career opportunities at Rainbow.

💡 Featured Quote:

"The culture is not something that you define and it just is what it is. It’s something you actively work on. It’s always evolving." – Bobby Touran

📢 Connect & Learn More:

Website: useRainbow.com – Check out the About Us page and open engineering roles.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobby-touran-782a6513/

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