OK, this was funny. I interviewed Mary a year or 2 before these episodes from 2005 on her experience as a Baptist studying Judaism. When we reconnect for these broadcasts she tells me that at some point during the process of her studying Sufism, she converts to Judaism. But the book was written (as I recall) while she was still a Christian. So all during my line of questioning I have to treat her like a Christian, even though she confided to me about her conversion. I hope I'm clear.

Regardless of all that, I did enjoy our discussions. I expect you will too.

Oh, Mary Blye Howe is now Mary Blye Keller. She switched more than religions, I guess. Theme music "Nigal."