This week, for another very special VPT2 interview, the girls are joined by the fabulous Joel AKA Billie Posters AKA Berlin Joel. Ceramicist, filmmaker, performance artist, reformed lawyer and Kitkat-enjoyer sits down between us to chat everything from cofa to UDK and back.

We open up in an anti-circle-jerk of sorts regarding our troubles with institutions, the Sydney art market, and painting. Attention to form is key: whether it’s art school or the sex club we’re searching together for divine inspiration, like Fiona Apple holding a coat hanger to the sky and waiting for it to strike. There’s some kind of cultural interchange happening between Berlin and Sydney… and we can feel it in our panties!

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