The Firn Line

A Conversation With Len Necefer


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In the final episode of 2018, I go back to a September conversation with climber, educator and activist, Len Necefer. Len holds a Ph.D in Engineering and Public Policy, and is founder of Natives Outdoors, an outdoor products company whose products serve to support indigenous people.


We discuss Len's roots and identity as a Navajo, experiencing racism in college, and his love for climbing and the outdoors (among other things).

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Cover Photo: Gabriel Ellison-Scowcroft

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