In this episode of The Business Clubhouse Conversations, I talk to to Pieter K De Villiers from Macanta.

Pieter and I talk about how business owners are frittering their time away with cancerous two minute tasks.  We discuss how to create systems and automate them giving you, the business owner more time and freedom to focus on what's really important. 

We get deep into what it is that makes people tick and why they choose to spend their time the way they do.  A fascinating insight into behaviour from our perspective. 

Pieter is the co-founder of Macanta, a CRM designed around you and your business. 

He is also the author of the best selling book Barefoot Business.

www.macanta.org/clubhouse