Stephen Himes, educator and experience learning coordinator, joins the podcast to help me understand more about Dickens and A Christmas Carol. Himes is an expert on curating and supporting student growth about the themes of Dickens. He organized travel abroad programs for schools.  https://sway.office.com/alYVx2u69y22rPSl In this podcast, we explore the themes and ideas in A Christmas Carol include how the modern day Scrooge story wanders from the messages that Dickens wanted us to consider.