If you look at her today, mostly on the TV screen, she is the epitome of American success – great looks, famous reputation, successful in all things.  But it wasn’t always that way.  The four years I spent with her were a time when things weren’t all that great. Her halcyon days seemed to be over, best looked at in the rear view mirror.  And yet my time with her was wonderful.  And it’s that era that I want to recall in today’s podcast.