North Carolina’s new top public health official, N.C. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Dev Sangvai joins Tying it Together host Tim Boyum to discuss the latest public health news, the future of health care, nurse shortages and more.

Tim also asks him just why the healthcare system is so difficult to understand for so many, including him.

"Nobody would build it the way we currently have it if we had to start all over. But I think now we have a $5 trillion healthcare enterprise across the United States, and I think individuals are just trying to do what their part is," Sangvai explained.

Sangvai is the state’s first Indian-American secretary and is a former president of Duke Regional Hospital and the North Carolina Medical Society.