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Nat and Ang are joined by Nichola Hines, President of the League of Women Voters of Georgia. Questions, so many questions. And answers! What's it like to work in a passionate non-partisan organization in a major swing state during one of the most sharply partisan, politically charged, and democracy challenged eras in US history? What's up with the Georgia legislature? BTW, did ya know y'all have a conspiracy theorist in Congress?! Do you suppose democracy will endure in spite of the mess we’re in? Oh, and one more…is there such a thing as hope?
Just in time for election day, join the gals as they ponder a place like Georgia in a time like now with a hero like Nichola Hines.
Resources
League of Women Voters, Georgia
Wisconsin Citizenship Voting Requirement Amendment
Georgia Senate Bill 189 as passed
Georgia Senate Bill 189 as opposed by voter rights advocates
Additional Music
“Georgia Night Highway,” Yagull Music
“Spirit in the Sunrise,” Jon Presstone
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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It’s time to vote and here we all are, bombarded at every turn by misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, and outright lies. Nat and Ang to the rescue, with a lot of help from Delany Zimmer, Voter Services Coordinator for the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin. Delany valiantly supports voter efforts to find truth in spite of our poisonous politics and polluted information ecosystem. What’s more, she does so in a key swing state! This makes her a real hero as well as a mighty fine person to interview right now.
Resources:
“Crime Here is Up and Through the Roof,” Zolan Kanno-Youngs
“What the Data Says about Crime in the US,” John Gramlich
“Even as Violent Crime Drops, Lawlessness Rises as an Election Issue,” Glenn Thrush
"AI is Spawning a Flood of Fake Trump and Harris Voices," Verma, Tenjarla, and Sand
C-span
Votesmart
Vote411
guides.vote
Additional Music
"Thinking Over the Idea," Volodymyr Piddubnyk
"Together we March," Turquoise Moon
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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In 1925, John Scopes, a high school biology teacher in rural Tennessee, was indicted for violating a new state law against teaching evolution. The record of his trial is a textbook all its own for today. A century later the very issues that played out in a small-town courthouse––from politics to religion and everything in between––still divide Americans.
Join Natalia and Angela as they grapple with the engaging, sometimes frightening, and always illuminating experience of reading Keeping the Faith: God, Democracy, and the Trial that Riveted a Nation, by Brenda Wineapple.
Resources:
Brenda Wineapple Keeping the Faith: God, Democracy, and the Trial that Riveted a Nation
Associated Press news “The Taliban publish vice laws that ban women's voices and bare faces in public”
Vox.com How the Republican Party went from Lincoln to Trump
Vox.com From white supremacy to Barack Obama: The history of the Democratic Party
Alexandra Alter “From School Librarian to Activist: ‘The Hate Level and the Vitriol Is Unreal”
Transition Music:
Humans Win “Sunshine Strum”
Volodymyr Piddubnyk “Minimal documentary background music”
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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The one thing most Americans agree on besides apple pie is that November 5, 2024 is a very big day in US history. What are the issues we should be reflecting on as we choose our national, state, and local leaders? Does it really all come down to the economy (stupid)? Or Project 2025? Or reproductive rights?
How about this one? Educational equity? Now there's an election issue you don't hear nearly enough about. And it's nothing short of a pillar of democracy!! So in the lead-up to the election, the gals are learning about learning, about thinking, about probing beyond the headlines and scary news talk that has way too much to do with ... pets?!
First up in the queue, die-hard nerds Nat and Ang are joined by some stiff nerd competition! Dr. Chloe Latham Sikes is an expert on educational policy and Deputy Director of Policy for IDRA, a non-profit organization committed to educational equity. She offers some mind-blowing, gob-smacking truths about what is happening to and in schools across the country and what that means to all of us who care about a healthy democracy.
Additional music:
"Golden Years," by Yagull Music
"New Beginnings," by Humans Win
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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The gals are back from hiatus and ready to take on the world. But not before they inter-generationally process their respective summer school lessons and what's in the fall syllabus. Consider this episode your back-to-school primer, just in time for the coming apocalypse, or at least for the 2024 elections.
Transition music:
"Sunshine Strum" by Humans Win
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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Nat and Ang are feeling wistful about the end of Season 1. Things won’t be the same without the thrill of a hot mic this summer. But the gals will survive the break like all schoolgirls do, mostly because they'll be using their hiatus to gear up for Season 2!
Before they sign off, Nat and Ang consider the art of podcasting in all its glory and messiness. Some shocking stats keep things riveting. Some inside scoop, like what it’s like to be an age-diverse podcast team, keeps things scandalous. If it were a homework assignment, this episode would clinch the A.
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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Mother’s Day is a perfect occasion for intergenerational processing! Nat and Ang take full advantage of this opportunity to explore a disconcerting array of topics: the evolutionary contributions of grandmothers, the panic over plunging fertility rates, the changing expectations of motherhood, how expensive kids are, etc. They even tackle (but fail to answer) the “to be or not to be (a mother)” question. Don’t worry about whiplash. A little artsy/litsy talk helps smooth out the ride.
Resources:
Kristen Hawkes, “Grandmothers and Human Evolution”
"US Fertility Rate Dropped..."
Peggy O’Donnell Heffington, "Why Women Not Having Kids Became a Panic"
"Yuni's Pros and Cons List of Having Children"
Michelle Ye Hee Lee and Julie Yoon, "Career or Kids: It's a Tough Choice for These Women"
Urban Dictionary
Jane Bell, "Mother Ate"
Leunig, Prayers (God Be with the Mother...)
Additional music:
The Turquoise Moon, "Like a Butterfly"
Raighes Factory, "Peaceful Light"
Humans Win, "Tick-Tock Block - Light Mix"
Justin Artis, "What's in My Heart"
The Turquoise Moon, "Mother’s Day: Hangin’ with Mama"
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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Be not afraid! It’s poetry month at the pod and Nat and Ang are here to cure your BARDOLOTRYPHOBIA. The gals serve up an irreverent crash course in love poetry, from Shakespeare’s sonnets to Solomon’s songs with (almost) nothing and no one in between. Find out which of our featured really famous, really dead poets is the literary heartthrob of the ages. Discover at last why Shakespeare and Solomon sound so much alike sometimes. Along the way, just try to keep track of all the hackneyed metaphors Nat and Ang use to explain things. We dare you. And be sure to stick around for the singalong.
Zero credit offered and no homework. Just a romp.
RESOURCES
Poetic Forms Writer’s Digest
Sonnets of Shakespeare
Song of Songs/Song of Solomon
Rev. Rob Christ on Song of Songs (TikTok)
Zhang Longxi “The Letter or the Spirit”
Canonization of Song of Songs (including the views of William Whiston and the Latter Day Saints)
Sharon Olds Stag’s Leap
Oscar Wilde Ave Marie Gratia Plena
Poets Mentioned in Passing
Tyler Knott Gregson
Rupi Kaur
Taylor Swift (who?)
Mary Oliver
Just for Fun
The Hair of the Head of Shakespeare
New Yorker Radio Hour Podcast: Judi Dench on Bond and Shakespeare
Transitional Music and Sound Effects:
Jon Presstone, “Fancy and Friendly” and “Renaissance Revelry”
Storyblocks, Stadium Sound Effects
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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The gals unpack their recent adventures and discoveries––from stray dogs and library story hours to things they wish they had asked recent pod guests. It’s a ride. Nat hums a few bars and ponders eschatology. Ang reads from a kids book and considers the nature of truth-with-a-capital-T. Together they decide that all we need is … well, love, sure … but a good book and a gospel tune help a whole lot too.
Sources:
Adam Rex; Lian Cho, Oh No, the Aunts are Here
Maya Ajmera, Cynthia Pon and Magda Nakassis, Faith
Jarvis, The Boy with Flowers in His Hair
Jack R. Gibb, “Defensive Communication” (essay)
Gibb Categories (Wikipedia)
Michael C. Bender, “The Church of Trump”
Jim Wallis, The False White Gospel
Sarah McCammon, The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living and Leaving the White Evangelical Church
"What is Realized Eschatology?"
John Shelby Spong, Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism
Additional Music:
Rainforest Audio, “Hide and Seek”
The Turquoise Moon, “Serene Guitar Ambience: In Nature”
Isha Love, “Good Old Days”
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
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If an episode drops on a major Christian holiday, trust the gals not to ignore the drama of it all. Just in time for Easter, they get help from a new friend of the pod, Bart Campolo, who is the son of a famous evangelist and who was a minister in the evangelical tradition himself for decades. That’s right, was. His later-in-life leap of non-faith led him all the way to secular humanism and a new kind of evangelical fervor––spreading the word about the sheer joy of living, heaven and hell be damned.
Bart keeps the conversation hopping with takes on how to scientifically conjure worship vibes and how not to let the narratives of the bible be held hostage by the literalists. Exvangelical listeners will especially appreciate his strategies for kindly but true-to-you conversations with those you left behind in the pews. Normal listeners will be fascinated at this peek inside a movement that seems intent on Making America Godly Again.
Resources:
Bart Campolo, Humanize Me (podcast)
Raphael, The School of Athens (painting)
Greg Epstein, Good Without God: What a Billion Nonreligious People Do Believe
Tony Campolo and Bart Campolo, Why I Left, Why I Stayed: Conversations on Christianity Between an Evangelical Father and His Humanist Son
Leaving My Father’s Faith (documentary)
Quem Quaeritas (early dramatization of Easter story within Catholic Mass)
Additional Music:
Jon Presstone, Fancy and Friendly
Raighes Factory, Peaceful Light
Turquoise Moon, Soulful Jazz PianoTransition
Jon Presstone, Spirit in the Sunrise
AGT and Nat and Ang on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/agenerationalthingpodcast/
https://www.instagram.com/natalia_latham/
https://www.instagram.com/angelajoylatham/
Logo by Kara Joy Schrock: https://www.instagram.com/kjreliquaries/
Technical consultant, Tim Godby
Music (for regular episodes):
"Curious Documentary" by Jon Presstone (intro and transitions)
"I Feel Fire" by we20fifty (outro)
From the publisher's feed
A Zoomer and a Boomer walk into a bar. Z says to B, “Girrrl, let’s start a podcast.” B rolls her eyes and says to Z, “Sure why not? The world is short on podcasts.” God hollers from the men’s…
Hosts Natalia Latham and Angela Latham take on the hard stuff, since that’s mostly all there is these days. Religion, culture, waves of feminism…maybe even some poetry. With 40 years and a couple of theatre degrees between them, these two preachers’ daughters, and exiles from a backwoods state of mind, are the family drama you actually need.
Available wherever you get your podcasts.