On this episode of The Ric and Dan Show, our hosts sit down with Matt North of Allenfarm Fence Company talk about all things Allenfarm— the ways in which the profession changed with the world, the ways in which the company stayed the same after all, and why the warehouse is full of so many swords.

Our episode starts out strong with Ric and Dan fighting about the Golden Rule, and soon after Matt reveals the origin of the "farm" in "Allenfarm". The three talk about the "seasons" of work, and how the changing of the whole world since the last 15 years has influenced (or not influenced) the company. Ric loses 5 dollars and Dan and Matt show him how they do it in Old Town. When asked about his life before fencing, Matt might've been in jail. Ric brings up a certain shipyard, a certain airport, and a certain spooky horror writer's fancy spider fence— and this gets Dan to thinking, are fences made to keep people out, or keep people in?

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