Live Behind The Veil

A Living Relationship From Doctrine To Experience


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Episode Summary
In “A Living Relationship: From Doctrine to Experience,” the family talks about how truth must become real through experience. Knowledge alone can’t transform lives; only revelation born of relationship can. They reflect on examples like Charlie Kirk, whose life expressed the reality of God’s Word. The conversation contrasts religious activity with Spirit-led action, reminding us that God looks at the heart, not performance. In this day of the Spirit, He is raising up living epistles—men and women who reveal Christ not just through words, but through His life flowing from within them.
Show Notes
• Moving from head knowledge to experiential relationship with God
• The difference between man’s word and God’s Word—it’s life
• Religion versus revelation: why the world longs for something real
• Living epistles—people who embody the Word
• Dead works versus living works: the motivation of the heart
• The day of the Spirit: God working through His people
• Charlie Kirk’s life as an example of revelation made real
• Becoming God’s temple—His hands, His voice, His expression in the earth
Quotes
• “We can quote the greatest doctrines in the world, but it doesn’t change us—it has to be an experience.” – Ron
• “People are looking for something that’s real, not phony. When someone speaks from their heart, it reaches their spirit.” – Debbie
• “A true living epistle is a person who’s had an experience with the Lord—His Word spoken through them becomes an impartation.” – Ron
• “If it doesn’t come out of a relationship with the Lord, you might as well be picking up sticks and throwing them at people.” – Debbie
• “We become His temple—His hands, His feet, His voice in the earth.” – Ken
Supporting Scriptures
John 6:63 – “The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.”
2 Corinthians 3:3 – “You are a letter from Christ… written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God.”
James 1:22 – “Be doers of the word, and not hearers only.”
Romans 8:10–11 – “If Christ is in you… His Spirit gives life.”
Galatians 2:20 – “It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.”
John 14:17 – “He lives with you and will be in you.”
Takeaway
True transformation comes when the Word becomes alive in us. Doctrine informs us, but experience in the Spirit transforms us. God’s goal is not that we know about Him—but that we live His life, becoming living epistles through whom Christ reveals Himself to the world.
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