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  • When an Experience Becomes Your Nature
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. SummaryGod does not intend our encounters with Him to remain isolated spiritual experiences that eventually fade away. Each time the Father reveals Himself, makes His presence known, or touches our spirit, He is opening another step in a continuing way of life. Ron shares about a deep awareness of the Father’s presence that began before his trip to Israel and continued throughout the journey. He describes the difference between simply knowing that we are in God’s presence and consciously living with an awareness of His presence. Rather than looking back and saying, “That was a wonderful experience,” we are called to contend for what God has given us and refuse to return to the place we were before. The Family explains that an experience with God becomes a deposit within our spirit. As we continue walking in it, that deposit is woven into our lives until it becomes part of our nature. The experience may appear to have an ending, but the work God began through it continues. Christ is not trying to make us outwardly religious or unnaturally spiritual. He is incorporating His life and nature into us in a way that becomes genuine and natural. We remain the unique people God created us to be, yet Christ increasingly expresses Himself through our words, choices, relationships, and everyday lives. This is a place of Kingdom rest. We cease striving to produce spirituality through our own effort and allow Christ to become our spirituality. Whether we feel something strongly or feel nothing at all, we trust that God is establishing His life within us. Experiences become stepping stones that lead us forward into the nature and life of Christ.Show Notes
    • The difference between being in God’s presence and being aware of His presence
    • Why encounters with God should become a continuing way of life
    • Refusing to allow spiritual experiences to fade into memories
    • Every experience with God leaves a deposit within our spirit
    • How God’s nature becomes woven into our everyday lives
    • Christ coming forth naturally rather than through religious behavior
    • Remaining who God created us to be while expressing Christ
    • Entering Kingdom rest and ceasing from our own spiritual effort
    • Trusting God even when we do not feel anything spiritually
    • Using past experiences as stepping stones instead of destinations
    • Christ Himself becoming our wisdom, spirituality, and confidence
    • Trusting the Father to direct our path

    Key Quotes
    • “There’s a difference between just being in His presence and being aware of His presence.”
    • “That is not an experience. That’s another step that the Father has opened up for me to walk in continually.”
    • “If you touch God, or He touches you, that’s a step that we need to put a pin in the ground and say, ‘I’m not going back from here.’”
    • “The experience has a beginning, and then it becomes a deposit in your spirit.”
    • “Pretty soon, it’s woven into our lives.”
    • “God is incorporating Himself into us in such a way that everything must become natural.”
    • “We are still us, and yet it’s Christ in us at the same time.”
    • “Christ is our spirituality.”
    • “The experiences become our stepping stones.”
    • “Go where the Lord leads you and let God be an expression through you.”

    Scriptural ReferencesColossians 1 (27) — Christ in You “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” God’s purpose is not merely to give us outward experiences but to reveal and establish the life of Christ within us. Galatians 2 (20) — Christ Living Through Us “It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.” We remain the individuals God created, yet Christ increasingly becomes the source and expression of our lives. 2 Corinthians 3 (18) — Transformation Into His Image As we behold the Lord, we are progressively transformed into His image. What begins as an encounter with Him becomes an inward change of nature. Hebrews 4 (9–11) — Entering God’s Rest Kingdom rest comes as we cease from our own works and trust God to accomplish His purposes within and through us. 1 Corinthians 2 (16) — The Mind of Christ “We have the mind of Christ.” His thoughts, trust, and relationship with the Father are being formed within His people. Proverbs 3 (5–6) — Trusting the Lord “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding.” As we acknowledge Him, He directs our lives and establishes His nature within us. Psalm 139 (14) — Wonderfully Made Each person has been carefully and uniquely created by God. His nature does not erase our individuality; it fulfills His purpose through it. Philippians 2 (13) — God Working Within Us “It is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.” The spiritual life is not something we manufacture through human effort.Takeaway

    Do not allow what God has revealed to you to become merely a memory of something that happened in the past. Receive every encounter with Him as a deposit and another step into a continuing way of life. You do not have to recreate an experience or struggle to appear spiritual. Rest in the Father, trust what He is establishing within you, and allow Christ to express His nature naturally through the person He created you to be. What began as an experience can become part of your nature as you continue walking forward with Him.

    17 min
  • A Priesthood of Faith, Worship, and Intercession
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    Summary
    God is raising and purifying a spiritual priesthood whose focus is firmly set upon Him. Although believers should remain aware of what is happening in the world, they must not allow their spirits to become distracted or consumed by it. Christ has already won the victory; therefore, His people are called to walk in that victory, trust His promises, and carry His presence into every situation.
    This priesthood ministers to God through worship, listening, faith, and intercession for all creation. Believers do not enter this calling through human effort or spiritual striving, but through the enabling power of the Holy Spirit. As they become conformed to the image of Christ and learn to live with an awareness of who they are in Him, God’s presence and glory flow through them. Their faith is not merely directed toward something that will happen someday—it declares that God’s Kingdom is coming forth now.
    Show Notes
    • God is raising and purifying a spiritual priesthood.
    • Believers must guard their focus and avoid becoming spiritually consumed by world events.
    • Christ has already won the battle; our calling is to walk in His victory.
    • Priestly intercession reaches beyond personal needs and embraces all creation.
    • Worshiping and praying in tongues allow the Holy Spirit to intercede beyond our natural understanding.
    • Listening and waiting upon the Lord are essential parts of spiritual intercession.
    • Everyone must begin where they are and trust the Holy Spirit to reveal the next step.
    • Spiritual growth requires movement; believers should not become stagnant.
    • Entering God’s presence is an act of faith rather than human effort.
    • A single Scripture can become a daily focus for meditation, faith, and communion with God.
    • Spiritual intensity does not require strain because believers are also entering God’s rest.
    • Creation’s deliverance is connected to the sons of God becoming conformed to Christ’s image.
    • Believers carry God’s presence into ordinary situations simply by knowing who they are in Christ.
    • Faith declares that God’s Kingdom is coming forth in the earth—and within His people—now.

    Quotes
    • “God’s raising a priest. Our focus needs to be so much on reaching into Him.”
    • “It’s already been won, so we walk in His victory as the channels of victory.”
    • “We are to be the intercessors for all creation because we have to understand that’s where we live now.”
    • “There’s a lot of waiting on the Lord, a lot of listening.”
    • “At least be in motion. Don’t be stagnant.”
    • “You position yourself in His presence by faith.”
    • “Don’t make it this hard thing. The Holy Spirit leads us and guides us every single step.”
    • “We can’t make this happen through human effort. It is to be that of the Spirit.”
    • “Just know who you are, so that when you come into any situation, you’re aware that you’re bringing His presence into that situation.”
    • “Our faith is now. What we declare is now. What we’re believing is now.”

    Scriptural References
    • 1Peter 2(5, 9)— Believers are being built together as a holy and royal priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices and proclaim God’s excellencies.
    • Hebrews 9(11-14)— Christ entered God’s presence as the perfect High Priest through His own blood, securing eternal redemption.
    • Colossians 3(1-2)— Believers are instructed to set their minds on the things above rather than becoming consumed by earthly distractions.
    • Matthew 6(33)— Seeking God’s Kingdom first establishes the proper focus for every part of life.
    • Romans 8(19-23)— Creation waits for the revealing of God’s sons and for deliverance from its slavery to corruption.
    • Romans 8(26-27)— The Holy Spirit helps believers in their weakness and intercedes according to the will of God.
    • Romans 8(29-30)— God has called His people to become conformed to the image of His Son, and His completed purpose includes their justification and glorification.
    • 1Corinthians 14(2, 15)— Speaking and worshiping in the Spirit allow believers to communicate with God beyond their natural understanding.
    • Zechariah 4(6)— God’s purposes are accomplished not through human strength or power, but by His Spirit.
    • Hebrews 11(6)— Faith is essential to pleasing God and approaching Him with confidence.
    • Hebrews 4(9-11)— God’s people are called to enter His rest, ceasing from fleshly striving while trusting His completed work.
    • John 16(13)— The Holy Spirit guides believers into truth and reveals what the Father is speaking.
    • 2Corinthians 5(7)— The life of the believer is governed by faith rather than by natural sight, circumstances, or feelings.

    Takeaway
    God is raising a priesthood that lives in His presence and intercedes for all creation. We do not fulfill this calling through striving, emotion, or human ability. We begin where we are, set our spirits upon the Lord, listen to the Holy Spirit, meditate upon His Word, and take each step by faith. As we become aware of who we are in Christ, we carry His presence and victory into every situation. Our faith is not waiting passively for a distant day—it is declaring that His Kingdom is coming forth in us and throughout creation now.
    12 min
  • A Lifestyle of Constant Change
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    Summary
    God is calling His people to embrace a lifestyle of continual spiritual change. This change takes place as we open our hearts, listen for His voice, and respond immediately in faith. We are not saved without a purpose; we are God’s workmanship, prepared to express His nature and accomplish His will in the earth.
    Delay can become a form of unbelief when we continually postpone acting upon what God has spoken. Instead of becoming distracted or trapped in spiritual routine, we can persistently seek the Lord, remain in His presence, and speak the Word He gives us. As we step out in faith, God moves through us, changes us into His likeness, and fills our walk with His joy.
    Show Notes
    • Committing ourselves to a lifestyle of continual spiritual change.
    • Opening the door of our hearts so the Lord can continue His creative work within us.
    • Recognizing that we are God’s workmanship, created with a divine purpose.
    • Becoming a prepared people who actively participate in what God is doing.
    • Refusing to tolerate delay, distraction, and spiritual complacency.
    • Listening for the Lord’s voice and responding immediately when He speaks.
    • Speaking God’s Word in faith so that His purposes can be accomplished in the earth.
    • Refusing to become trapped in religious routines or the distractions of the soul.
    • Understanding that spiritual growth comes through receiving God’s nature.
    • Experiencing the joy of the Lord as we wait upon Him and follow His direction.
    • Finding relationships where believers can speak, strengthen, correct, and encourage one another.
    • Trusting God to supply the faith needed to walk out the Word He gives us.

    Quotes
    • “Lord, we are committed to constant change.”
    • “We’re His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works.”
    • “We’re not just people that have been saved without a purpose. We’re saved with a purpose.”
    • “We can’t tolerate delay any longer.”
    • “Tolerating delay is like unbelief.”
    • “Only acting on the Word of the Lord when it comes—immediately.”
    • “In reality, we all hear the voice of the Lord if we’re listening.”
    • “There’s nothing we have spoken about so far that doesn’t come with the joy of the Lord.”
    • “Refuse to get bogged down in the soul life.”
    • “Our growth is in Him imparting His nature to us.”
    • “Everything we do in a relationship with God is an act of faith.”
    • “Once you hear a Word from God, you step out on that Word by faith.”

    Scriptural References
    • Revelation 3 (20)— Christ stands at the door and knocks, inviting us to open our hearts and fellowship with Him.
    • Ephesians 2 (10)— We are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to accomplish the good works He has prepared for us.
    • Romans 8 (14)— Those who are led by the Spirit of God are recognized as the sons of God.
    • Genesis 32 (26)— Jacob persistently holds on to the Lord, declaring that he will not let go until he receives a blessing.
    • Nehemiah 8 (10)— The joy of the Lord is the strength that sustains us as we walk with Him.
    • Ephesians 3 (20)— God is able to accomplish exceedingly and abundantly beyond everything we can ask or imagine.
    • John 10 (27)— The Lord’s sheep hear His voice, know Him, and follow His leading.
    • Romans 10 (17)— Faith comes through hearing the Word that God is speaking.
    • James 1 (22)— We are called to act upon God’s Word rather than merely hearing it.
    • II Corinthians 3 (18)— As we behold the Lord, we are continually changed into His likeness from glory to glory.

    Takeaway
    Refuse to postpone what God is speaking to your heart. Remain attentive to His voice, receive His nature, and respond to His Word in faith. As you act upon what He reveals, He will continue changing you and working through you to accomplish His purpose in the earth.
    12 min
  • The Second Coming of the Holy Spirit
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    Summary
    In “The Second Coming of the Holy Spirit,” the family discuss a growing outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the faith required to participate in it. They describe salvation as the beginning of a continuing walk with God in which the Holy Spirit transforms believers, brings forth the nature of Christ, and teaches them to live for the Father. The conversation also considers how worldwide hardship can expose the temporary nature of earthly security and awaken people to their need for God. Ultimately, the speakers see the Holy Spirit working in individuals, the Body of Christ, and all creation as God’s plan moves toward its culmination.
    Show Notes
    • Receiving salvation and the baptism of the Holy Spirit by faith
    • Learning to walk by faith in every area of life
    • Entering God’s rest through the presence of Christ
    • Evidence of the Holy Spirit moving throughout the world
    • Pentecost and the promised outpouring of the Spirit
    • God’s love and His call to repentance
    • Looking beyond temporary possessions and circumstances
    • Developing an eternal perspective
    • Salvation as the first step in a lifelong relationship with God
    • The Holy Spirit putting the flesh to death and forming Christ within believers
    • Learning to receive the Father’s daily direction
    • God working in His sons, the Body of Christ, and creation
    • Faith and trust as keys to participating in what God is doing

    Quotes
    • “I think we’re going to find that this next level that we’re reaching into right now is really an act of faith.” — Ken
    • “Or just walking your daily life by faith. Every area.” — Ron
    • “You reach out to God, he will meet you with his Holy Spirit.” — Dale
    • “Wake up every morning, open your heart to Him. Ask Him, ‘What are we doing today, Father? You show me.’” — Dale
    • “No, you just barely cracked the door open. You just barely started the first step into a walk with God.” — Ron
    • “He’s pouring out His Spirit. And why is He doing that? Because He’s speeding up the process.” — Ron
    • “We are the clay, He is the potter, and He is doing something in our lives.” — Ron
    • “So what’s the trigger? What’s the key to make it happen? Our faith, our trust, the Holy Spirit, the second coming of it.” — Mike

    Scriptural References
    • John 3 (16)— God’s love and salvation through His Son.
    • James 4 (8)— Drawing near to God.
    • Hebrews 4 (1–11)— Entering God’s rest through faith.
    • Joel 2 (28–29)— The promised outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
    • Acts 2 (1–4), (16–18)— The Holy Spirit’s outpouring at Pentecost.
    • 2 Peter 3 (9)— God’s desire for people to repent.
    • Matthew 6 (19–21)— Choosing eternal treasure over earthly possessions.
    • Romans 8 (13–14)— Putting the flesh to death and being led by the Spirit.
    • Galatians 4 (19)— Christ being formed within believers.
    • John 16 (13–15)— The Holy Spirit guiding believers into truth.
    • Romans 8 (19–23)— God’s sons and the freedom of creation.
    • Isaiah 64 (8)— God as the potter and His people as the clay.
    • 2 Corinthians 3 (18)— Being transformed into Christ’s image.
    • 2 Corinthians 4 (18)— Focusing on eternal rather than temporary things.

    Takeaway
    Salvation is not the end of the journey; it is the doorway into an ever-deepening relationship with God. The invitation is to open your heart to the Holy Spirit each day, trust His direction, and allow Him to replace the old nature with the life and character of Christ.
    15 min
  • A Creative Word Through a Many-Membered Body
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    Summary
    God’s people are called to embody and speak His living Word. Because His Word carries creative power and accomplishes His purposes, words spoken in alignment with Him can minister life, freedom, peace, and revelation to others.
    As believers spend time in God’s presence, His rest and peace become part of them and flow naturally to those with receptive hearts. The ecclesia—God’s called-out people—is being matured and equipped to express Christ as a many-membered body. Their calling is to listen, believe, proclaim what God has spoken, and trust Him to fulfill it.
    Show Notes
    • Believers were created to express the living Word from within.
    • God’s Word carries the power necessary to accomplish His purpose.
    • A word aligned with Christ continues working beyond what the speaker can see.
    • The Church is not primarily an institution; it is a people called and defined by God.
    • Spiritual maturity requires attentiveness to God’s presence and learning to walk by the Spirit.
    • Time in God’s presence produces rest and peace.
    • The life of Christ can be communicated through ordinary conversation.
    • Speaking God’s promises back to Him builds confidence and replaces inner striving.
    • Believers are called to serve as watchmen who remember and proclaim God’s promises.
    • God speaks through human vessels and through the many-membered Body of Christ.
    • The results of a spoken word may remain unseen, but believers can trust God to continue His work.
    • God’s Spirit can free people from rigid ideologies and open their hearts to truth.

    Key Quotes
    • “We are living stones raised up to speak a living word.” — Ken
    • “Everything in that word that was spoken is contained in it.” — Ron
    • “We are learning to walk in the Spirit.” — Debbie
    • “I just be who I am in the Lord, and what’s in me emanates from me.” — Mike
    • “He said it, and He’s gonna do it.” — Sherry
    • “A word that God is speaking is being spoken through a human vessel.” — Dale
    • “Speaking the word out in a conversational form…is the highest form of prophecy.” — Mike
    • “What a privilege it is to live in this day where God is moving through the many-membered body.” — Ken

    Scriptural References
    • John 1 (1-4, 14)— Jesus Christ is the Word made flesh and the source of life.
    • II Corinthians 3 (2-3)— Believers are living letters of Christ, written by the Spirit.
    • I Peter 2 (4-5)— God’s people are living stones being built into a spiritual house.
    • Isaiah 55 (10-11)— God’s Word does not return empty but accomplishes His purpose.
    • Psalm 119 (89)— God’s Word is forever settled in heaven.
    • Jeremiah 1 (12)— God watches over His Word to perform it.
    • Hebrews 4 (12)— The Word of God is living, active, and penetrating.
    • Mark 9 (38-40)— Jesus tells His disciples not to stop those working in His name.
    • I Peter 2 (9)— God calls His people out of darkness to proclaim His excellencies.
    • Romans 8 (14)— God’s children are led by His Spirit.
    • Galatians 5 (25)— Those who live by the Spirit are called to walk by the Spirit.
    • Hebrews 4 (9-11)— God’s people are invited to enter His rest.
    • John 14 (27)— Jesus gives His people a peace unlike the world’s peace.
    • Isaiah 62 (6-7)— Watchmen remind the Lord of His promises and seek their fulfillment.
    • Ezekiel 3 (17)— God appoints a watchman to hear His Word and speak it.
    • I Corinthians 14 (3)— Prophecy strengthens, encourages, and comforts others.
    • I Peter 4 (10-11)— Those who speak should do so as people expressing the words of God.
    • Romans 8 (19-22)— Creation waits for the revealing of the sons and daughters of God.
    • Ephesians 1 (22-23)— The Church is Christ’s Body, filled with His presence.
    • John 8 (31-32)— Truth brings freedom to those who receive and continue in it.

    Takeaway
    Spend time in God’s presence until His Word becomes living and settled within you. Then speak it with faith, peace, and humility—whether through Scripture, prayer, encouragement, or ordinary conversation. You may not immediately see the results, but God remains responsible for bringing His Word to fulfillment.
    11 min
  • The Outpouring of the Holy Spirit Through a People Made One
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    Summary
    This conversation focuses on a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit through a people being brought into oneness. The first outpouring at Pentecost empowered the disciples to become witnesses of Christ, but it was also the beginning of an ongoing work of the Spirit.
    The Family describes Christ coming forth through a many-membered Body rather than through one individual. As believers become one and yield themselves to the Holy Spirit, a greater corporate anointing can be released through them.
    Although no one fully understands how this greater outpouring will unfold, the Family believes it has already begun. The call is to remain humble, spiritually awake, open, and expectant for the greater measure that is still to come.
    Show Notes
    • The promise and first outpouring of the Holy Spirit
    • Pentecost as the beginning of an ongoing work
    • Christ coming forth through a many-membered Body
    • The unlimited measure of the Spirit that rested upon Christ
    • The Holy Spirit empowering believers to become witnesses
    • True oneness producing a greater corporate anointing
    • God’s people created as vessels for greater works
    • The importance of humility, surrender, and expectancy
    • The outpouring beginning through believers who are becoming one
    • Recognizing what the Holy Spirit is already doing today
    • Preparing our hearts for the greater measure still to come.

    Key Quotes
    • “He’s coming forth in a many-membered Body.”
    • “This experience is more than any kind of religious setting. This is an anointing right from the Father to endue us with power to be His witnesses.”
    • “This is for the church today. It’s for His people today.”
    • “When we come into that level of oneness, the anointing is so much greater because of the oneness.”
    • “We yield ourselves, we humble ourselves to be those channels.”
    • “Our hearts need to be tender and open and expecting.”
    • “The Lord has already begun the work of the Holy Spirit in us.”
    • “It’s going to start with believers that are truly one.”
    • “There’s more coming, and I think we’re already in it.”

    Scriptural References
    The Promise of the Spirit
    John 14 (16–17)
    Jesus promised that the Father would send the Helper, the Spirit of truth, to live within His people.
    John 16 (7)
    Jesus said it was to the disciples’ advantage that He went away so the Holy Spirit could come.
    Luke 24 (49)
    The disciples were instructed to wait until they were clothed with power from on high.
    Pentecost and the Outpouring
    Acts 1 (4–8)
    The Holy Spirit would give the disciples power to become Christ’s witnesses.
    Acts 2 (1–4)
    The believers were together in one place and were filled with the Holy Spirit.
    Joel 2 (28–29)
    God promised to pour out His Spirit upon all flesh.
    The Many-Membered Body
    1 Corinthians 12 (12–14)
    The Body of Christ has many members, yet all are joined together through the Spirit.
    Ephesians 4 (15–16)
    The whole Body grows as every member supplies what God has placed within them.
    John 17 (20–23)
    Jesus prayed that His followers would become one as He and the Father are one.
    Greater Works Through Yielded Vessels
    John 14 (12)
    Jesus said believers would do His works and even greater works.
    Ephesians 2 (10)
    We are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for works He prepared beforehand.
    Philippians 2 (13)
    God works within His people to accomplish His will and purpose.
    Zechariah 4 (6)
    God’s work is accomplished not by human strength, but by His Spirit.
    Spiritual Awareness
    Ephesians 1 (17–18)
    Paul prayed that the eyes of believers’ hearts would be enlightened.
    Isaiah 43 (19)
    God declares that He is doing a new thing and asks whether His people can perceive it.
    Takeaway
    The outpouring of the Holy Spirit is not only a past event or a future promise. The Spirit is already working within God’s people, preparing a many-membered Body through which Christ can be revealed.
    We may not understand exactly how the greater outpouring will unfold, but we can prepare our hearts. As we remain humble, yielded, spiritually awake, and united, God can accomplish the greater works He has already prepared.
    Open your heart, recognize what the Spirit is doing now, and remain expectant for the greater measure still to come.
    11 min
  • The Jewish Roots of Our Faith
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    Summary
    This conversation focuses on the importance of understanding the Jewish roots of the Christian faith and what it means for Gentile believers to be grafted into the Jewish root. The Family discusses how much of the Christian Church lost its Hebrew foundation early on, especially as Gentile leadership and Greek influence became dominant.
    The conversation also addresses the need to break down walls between Jews and Gentiles. Rather than accusing one another, both must recognize their need for God, His salvation, and His Kingdom. The Family emphasizes that Christians should approach the Jewish people with humility, love, and a deeper revelation of being connected to them through Christ.
    At the heart of the discussion is the truth that God is bringing Jews and Gentiles into oneness. The Kingdom of God is not built around religious concepts, traditions, or accusations, but around the Father’s purpose, His salvation, and the revelation of Christ.
    Show Notes
    • The Family begins by talking about how foundational it is for Christians to understand that the Jewish people are their elder brothers. Being grafted in is not just a doctrine or phrase; it is a revelation that changes how believers see their walk with God.
    • They discuss how the early Christian Church became separated from its Hebrew roots. As Gentile leadership became more dominant, the Scriptures began to be interpreted through Greek philosophy and culture. This caused the Church to lose much of the foundation Christ was teaching.
    • The conversation then moves into the issue of anti-Semitism and misunderstanding. The Family points out that many Christians may not recognize how deeply some wrong thinking has been built into Christian history and tradition.
    • They also discuss salvation from a Jewish perspective. The Jewish people often view salvation in terms of deliverance from enemies, oppression, and the physical realm, while many Western Gentile Christians tend to view salvation mainly as an individual spiritual experience.
    • The Family talks about the Messiah and how the Jewish people continue to look for His coming. They recognize that many Jews did accept Christ, while others did not understand His role as the suffering Messiah. Instead of accusing the Jewish people, the Family emphasizes that Christians have also missed much and must walk humbly.
    • The discussion closes with the recognition that both Jews and Christians are looking for the Kingdom of God. The enemy works to create division, but God is bringing a deeper awareness, preparation, and revelation of His Kingdom.

    Key Quotes
    • “There’s something so foundational that Christians need to get.”
    • “It’s not good enough to say that the Jews are our elder brothers and we’re grafted into them.”
    • “I really need to know my roots. I need to know my older brothers.”
    • “We lost the very foundations of what Christ was trying to teach us.”
    • “We’re coming into a time where the Lord is leading to bring about speaking the truth in love.”
    • “We are all one.”
    • “We were grafted in through Christ.”
    • “We really need to love one another, drop these walls.”
    • “We’re grafted in as a small part of something that is already a huge tree.”
    • “Thy kingdom come. Not my concept of the Kingdom, but Your Kingdom come.”

    Scriptural References
    Grafted Into the Jewish Root
    Romans 11 (17–24)
    Paul describes Gentile believers as wild branches grafted into the cultivated olive tree. This directly supports the conversation about Christians being grafted into the Jewish root and needing humility toward Israel.
    Abraham’s Covenant
    Genesis 12 (1–3)
    God promises Abraham that through him all the families of the earth would be blessed. This connects to the discussion about the covenant with Abraham and the relationship between Jews, Gentiles, and God’s purpose.
    Genesis 17 (7)
    God speaks of His covenant with Abraham and his descendants as an everlasting covenant. This supports the discussion about the Jewish people already having a covenant relationship with God.
    Jews and Gentiles Becoming One
    Ephesians 2 (14–16)
    Paul teaches that Christ broke down the dividing wall and made Jews and Gentiles one. This fits the transcript’s emphasis on dropping walls, ending accusation, and coming into oneness.
    Galatians 3 (28–29)
    Paul says there is neither Jew nor Greek in Christ, and those who belong to Christ are Abraham’s seed. This supports the theme of unity through Christ without removing the importance of the Jewish root.
    The Messiah and Salvation
    Isaiah 53 (3–6)
    Isaiah speaks prophetically of the suffering Messiah. This connects to the discussion about the Jewish people not recognizing the suffering Messiah and how Christ had to suffer.
    Luke 24 (25–27)
    Jesus explains from Moses and the prophets the things concerning Himself. This supports the point that the prophets pointed to Christ.
    John 4 (22)
    Jesus says salvation is from the Jews. This strongly connects to the discussion of the Hebrew foundation of Christianity and the Jewish roots of salvation.
    The Kingdom of God
    Matthew 6 (9–10)
    Jesus teaches the disciples to pray, “Thy kingdom come.” This directly connects to Ken’s statement that it is not our concept of the Kingdom, but God’s Kingdom that must come forth.
    Matthew 25 (1–13)
    The parable of the wise and foolish virgins connects to the closing point about awareness, preparedness, and having oil in the lamp.
    Takeaway
    The Christian faith cannot be fully understood apart from its Jewish root. Gentile believers were grafted into something God had already established through Abraham and the Jewish people. Rather than walking in arrogance, accusation, or separation, believers are called to humility, love, and a deeper revelation of God’s Kingdom. God is bringing Jews and Gentiles into oneness through His purpose, His salvation, and His Son.
    13 min
  • Returning To The Roots Of Our Faith
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    Summary
    This conversation focuses on the importance of returning to the Jewish roots of the Christian faith and rejecting the anti-Semitism that has developed throughout much of church history. The Family emphasizes that the Jewish people were chosen by God to bring forth His Word, His covenants, and ultimately the Messiah. Because of this, Christians should honor the Jewish people rather than speak against them.
    The Family also examines how Christianity has incorporated traditions that are not rooted in Scripture while becoming disconnected from the biblical feasts, the Sabbath, and the Hebrew foundations of faith. Returning to these roots is not presented as adopting a religious system, but as seeking greater truth, maturity, and understanding of God’s purpose.
    The discussion points to Paul’s teaching in Romans concerning Israel and the Gentiles. Although many Jewish people have not yet recognized Jesus as the Messiah, God has not rejected or forgotten them. His promises to Abraham remain, and His plan includes bringing Jewish and Gentile believers together as one people under Christ, the great High Priest.
    Ultimately, the Family shares a common desire to see God’s Kingdom established on the earth. This unity will not come through compromise, prejudice, or human traditions, but through a shared hunger for God, a love for His Word, and the recognition that His purposes for Israel and the nations will be fulfilled.
    Show Notes
    Honoring the Jewish People
    The Jewish people have endured increasing persecution and anti-Semitism throughout the world. The Family emphasizes the need for Christians to understand why Israel and the Jewish people should be loved and honored. Through them came the Scriptures, the covenants, the promises, and the Messiah.
    Recognizing the Roots of Christianity
    Many Christians have little understanding of the Hebrew foundations of their faith. The conversation encourages believers to study those roots and examine traditions that may have developed outside of biblical truth.
    Rejecting Anti-Semitism
    Anti-Semitic beliefs have existed within Christianity for centuries. The Family warns that believers must reject teachings that accuse, dishonor, or dismiss the Jewish people. Such attitudes ignore God’s continuing covenant purpose.
    Learning from the Jewish People
    The Jewish longing for the coming of the Messiah can challenge Christians to examine their own desire for Christ’s return. Their dedication to Scripture, worship, and the expectation of God’s Kingdom can inspire believers to pursue the Lord more deeply.
    Israel and the Gentiles
    Romans 9–11 reveals that God has not rejected Israel. Gentile believers have been grafted into the promises of God, but they must not become arrogant toward the original branches. God’s purpose is to bring restoration and fulfillment to both Israel and the nations.
    The Promise Given to Abraham
    God’s covenant with Abraham was the beginning of a purpose that would ultimately bless all nations. His choice of Abraham and his descendants did not mean that God had forgotten the rest of humanity. His desire has always been to receive everyone who turns toward Him in faith.
    Coming Together Under Christ
    The Family believes that Jewish and Gentile believers will increasingly come together through a shared desire to see God’s Kingdom established. This unity is centered in Christ, the Messiah and great High Priest.
    Returning to Biblical Truth
    The conversation challenges believers to examine religious traditions and compromises that may have replaced the truth of Scripture. Returning to the roots of faith means seeking what God originally intended rather than simply continuing inherited customs.
    Worship and the Biblical Feasts
    The Feast of Tabernacles is mentioned as a picture of God dwelling among His people. The biblical feasts can help believers understand God’s presence, His redemptive plan, and His desire to be glorified among His people.
    Key Quotes
    • “We need to lay a foundation of why we love the Jews.”
    • “Would we have the Word of God today without the Jews?”
    • “We need to realize our roots.”
    • “Our older brothers, the Jews, help drive us to pursue after God and His Word.”
    • “How driven are we for the Lord’s return?”
    • “I was there to learn of them. I admitted, ‘You’re my elder brother.’”
    • “God is sorting it out.”
    • “He’s bringing the Jews and the Christians together.”
    • “All of this goes back to Abraham.”
    • “God never forgot any of us.”
    • “We come together because we have the same drive, the same desire, and the same heart to see God’s Kingdom come forth on this earth.”
    • “We need to get back to our roots and the reality and the truth.”

    Scriptural References
    God’s Covenant With Abraham
    Genesis 12 (1–3)
    God promises to bless Abraham and make him a blessing through whom all the families of the earth will be blessed.
    Genesis 15 (7–18)
    God confirms His covenant with Abraham through the divided sacrifices and passes between the pieces as a sign of His commitment.
    Genesis 17 (7–8)
    God declares His covenant with Abraham and his descendants to be an everlasting covenant.
    Israel and the Gentiles
    Romans 9 (4–5)
    Paul describes the covenants, promises, worship, law, and Messiah that came through Israel.
    Romans 11 (1–2)
    Paul makes it clear that God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew.
    Romans 11 (11–12)
    Israel’s stumbling opened a door of salvation to the Gentiles, but Paul also anticipates Israel’s future fullness.
    Romans 11 (17–21)
    Gentile believers are described as wild olive branches grafted into Israel’s cultivated olive tree and are warned not to become arrogant.
    Romans 11 (25–29)
    Paul speaks of a partial hardening of Israel and affirms that God’s gifts and calling are irrevocable.
    Ephesians 2 (11–18)
    Through Christ, Jews and Gentiles are brought near and created into one new humanity with access to the Father.
    The Jewish Roots of the Faith
    John 4 (22)
    Jesus states that salvation is from the Jews.
    Romans 3 (1–2)
    Paul explains that the Jewish people were entrusted with the words of God.
    Galatians 3 (7–9)
    Those who live by faith share in the blessing promised through Abraham.
    Loving and Honoring the Jewish People
    Genesis 12 (3)
    God promises to bless those who bless Abraham and declares that all nations will be blessed through him.
    Psalm 122 (6)
    Believers are encouraged to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
    Isaiah 40 (1–2)
    God calls His servants to comfort His people and speak tenderly to Jerusalem.
    Christ’s Return and God’s Kingdom
    Matthew 6 (9–10)
    Jesus teaches His disciples to pray for God’s Kingdom to come and His will to be done on earth.
    Acts 1 (6–8)
    The disciples ask Jesus about the restoration of the Kingdom, and He directs them to become witnesses through the power of the Holy Spirit.
    Revelation 11 (15)
    The kingdoms of the world become the Kingdom of the Lord and of His Christ.
    Christ as the Great High Priest
    Hebrews 4 (14–16)
    Jesus is presented as the great High Priest through whom believers may approach God with confidence.
    Hebrews 7 (24–27)
    Christ holds His priesthood permanently and continually intercedes for those who come to God through Him.
    The Feast of Tabernacles and God’s Presence
    Leviticus 23 (33–43)
    God establishes the Feast of Tabernacles as a time of rejoicing and remembrance.
    Zechariah 14 (16)
    The nations are pictured coming to Jerusalem to worship the King and celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
    John 1 (14)
    The Word became flesh and dwelt, or tabernacled, among humanity, revealing God’s glory.
    Spiritual Maturity
    1 Corinthians 13 (11)
    Paul describes putting away childish ways as a person grows into maturity.
    Hebrews 5 (12–14)
    Believers are encouraged to move beyond spiritual infancy and mature in their understanding of truth.
    Takeaway
    Christians cannot fully understand their faith while ignoring the Jewish people and the Hebrew roots through which God revealed His Word and brought forth the Messiah. God has not abandoned Israel, and Gentile believers should walk in humility, gratitude, and honor toward the people into whose spiritual heritage they have been grafted.
    Returning to the roots of faith means rejecting anti-Semitism, examining traditions in the light of Scripture, and seeking God’s original purpose. As Jewish and Gentile hearts turn toward the Lord, God is bringing forth a people united under Christ with one desire: to see His Kingdom come and His presence fill the earth.
    10 min
  • Prepared By The Spirit For This Day
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    Summary
    This conversation centers on trusting the impartation of the Holy Spirit into our spirit. The Family emphasizes that God often works beyond the understanding of the natural mind. Instead of trying to figure everything out, believers are encouraged to open their hearts, receive from the Spirit, and rest in the Father’s love.
    The discussion points out that what God imparts may not always be what a person thinks they need or wants to receive. Yet because He is the Father and He loves us, we can trust that what He places within us is good, eternal, and part of what He is creating us to become. As we rest in Him, the Word that has been imparted into our spirits begins to come alive, flow through us, and be spoken by the Spirit.
    Show Notes
    The Spirit bypasses the carnal mind
    The impartation of the Holy Spirit does not begin in human reasoning or understanding. God places something directly into the spirit, and over time it filters into the soul, mind, revelation, and walk.
    Rest comes through trusting the Father
    The Family emphasizes that rest comes when we trust the Holy Spirit and believe that the Father loves us. We do not have to understand everything He is doing in order to receive what He is imparting.
    The Word becomes a reservoir within us
    There is a living deposit of the Word in our spirits. As we rest and trust, that Word comes alive and begins to flow out of us by the Spirit.
    Impartation is spirit to spirit
    The conversation highlights that impartation does not always require many words. A person can become a channel through which the Spirit flows to others.
    God creates what He wants us to be
    The Father may impart something different than what we expected, but it is still good and eternal. He is forming us according to His purpose.
    Stay focused on today
    Rather than worrying about yesterday or tomorrow, the encouragement is to walk in what the Spirit is leading today.
    Quotes
    “All we really need to do is align ourself with His Spirit and allow Him to work in us.”
    “God imparted to your spirit, and then you became it in your spirit first.”
    “There has to be a trust, a revelation that He loves you, and that He started something. He’s not gonna stop until He’s finished with it.”
    “There is a reservoir of the Word that’s been imparted to our spirits that’s very real.”
    “We just need to be a channel, spirit to flow through.”
    “Not by power nor by might, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord.”
    “You’re my Father, and You love me, and You’re going to impart good things to me.”
    “You open your heart, you receive it. That’s it. It’s not any harder than that.”
    “We just need to trust that what He’s placed within each and every one of us has prepared us for this day.”
    Scriptural References
    Trusting the Spirit’s work
    Zechariah 4 (6) — “Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit” directly supports the theme that God’s work comes by the Spirit, not by human effort.
    Resting in the Lord
    Matthew 11 (28–30) — Jesus calls His people to come to Him and find rest, which connects with the conversation’s emphasis on resting instead of striving.
    The Spirit teaching and revealing
    John 16 (13) — The Spirit of truth guides believers into truth, showing that revelation comes from the Spirit rather than the natural mind.
    The carnal mind cannot receive spiritual things
    Romans 8 (6–7) — The carnal mind is set against God, which fits Ron’s point about God bypassing the natural mind and imparting directly to the spirit.
    God completing what He began
    Philippians 1 (6) — God begins the work and continues it until it is complete, matching Ken’s statement that the Father started something and will not stop until He finishes it.
    The Word living within us
    Colossians 3 (16) — The Word of Christ dwelling richly within us connects with the idea of a reservoir of the Word imparted into our spirits.
    The day star arising in the heart
    2 Peter 1 (19) — This speaks of the day star arising in the heart, matching Ken’s statement about the day star beginning to arise as impartation is received.
    Living one day at a time
    Matthew 6 (34) — Jesus teaches not to worry about tomorrow, which supports Mike’s point about staying focused on today.
    Takeaway
    The Father is imparting His Spirit and His Word into us, even when we do not fully understand what He is doing. Our part is to open our hearts, trust His love, rest in His work, and allow what He has placed within our spirit to come alive and flow through us.
     
    10 min
  • Oneness Through The Anointing
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    Summary
    This conversation focuses on how independence works against the oneness God is creating within His Family. The Family emphasizes that true oneness does not come through human agreement, common ideas, organizational leadership, or intellectual understanding. It comes through hearing the voice of the Lord, submitting to His Spirit, and living in the awareness of His presence.
    The anointing is described as the presence of the Lord living within each believer. Because Christ dwells within every member of the Family, each person has something important to contribute. Ministry is not simply found in the words a person speaks, but in who that person has become through Christ.
    The Family also emphasizes that the mind and soul can interfere with oneness when they operate independently from the Lord. As believers submit their thoughts, emotions, and desires to Christ, they are able to express the life of Christ within them. The presence of the Father becomes the strength and lifeblood of the Body, enabling every member to take their place and function together in true oneness.
    Show Notes
    Independence Works Against Oneness
    The conversation begins with the clear statement that independence is the enemy of oneness. The Family is not meant to function as separate individuals following their own ideas or understanding. They are called to hear the Lord together and move according to what He is speaking.
    Hearing the Voice of the Lord
    True leadership comes through someone hearing and speaking a word from the Lord. The focus is not on human position or authority, but on recognizing the voice of Christ and following His direction.
    The Anointing Is the Presence of the Lord
    The anointing is described as the presence of the Lord living within the believer. It is not something that can be fully understood through the human mind. It is experienced as the Spirit of God lives, speaks, and ministers through His people.
    Every Member Is Important
    Each member gives their spirit to the oneness of the Family. No person is insignificant or unnecessary. Like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, the Body is not complete until every member is in their proper place.
    Ministry Flows From Who We Are
    Ministry is not limited to what someone says or does. The effect of who a person has become in Christ ministers life to the rest of the Family. Christ within each believer is the source of that ministry.
    Submitting the Mind and Soul
    The mind and soul often try to interfere with what the Lord is doing. As believers submit to His Word, Spirit, and love, they enter into humility and become more aware of His presence.
    The Father’s Presence Is Our Strength
    The conversation closes with the importance of living in the awareness that the Father is always present. His presence gives an inner strength that allows believers to express Christ instead of reacting from the soul or mind.
    Key Quotes
    • “Independence is the enemy of oneness.”
    • “The Spirit is what makes us one.”
    • “You are important because you give your spirit to oneness.”
    • “The anointing is giving God His voice.”
    • “It’s not what you say; it’s who you are.”
    • “Without His presence, we can’t function in this Body.”
    • “It’s Christ in me, the hope of glory.”
    • “The presence of the Father is the main thing.”
    • “He’s always with us. He never leaves us.”

    Scriptural References
    Hearing the Voice of the Lord
    John 10 (27)
    Jesus says that His sheep hear His voice, He knows them, and they follow Him.
    The Anointing Within the Believer
    1 John 2 (27)
    The anointing received from the Lord abides within believers and teaches them to remain in Him.
    Brought Into His Light
    1 Peter 2 (9)
    God has called His people out of darkness and into His marvelous light.
    Christ’s Prayer for Oneness
    John 17 (20–23)
    Jesus prayed that His followers would be one as He and the Father are one.
    Christ Within Us
    Colossians 1 (27)
    Paul describes Christ within the believer as the hope of glory.
    The Temple of the Holy Spirit
    1 Corinthians 6 (19–20)
    Believers are temples of the Holy Spirit, who dwells within them.
    The Joy of the Lord Is Our Strength
    Nehemiah 8 (10)
    The joy of the Lord is the strength of His people.
    God Will Never Leave Us
    Hebrews 13 (5)
    God promises that He will never leave or forsake His people.
    Every Member Is Needed
    1 Corinthians 12 (12–27)
    The Body of Christ has many members, and every member is necessary and important.
    Sons Through Adoption
    Romans 8 (14–17)
    Those who are led by the Spirit of God are His sons and have received the Spirit of adoption.
    Takeaway
    True oneness cannot be produced through human effort, shared opinions, or organizational structure. It comes as each member rejects independence, hears the Lord, submits the mind and soul to His Spirit, and contributes the life of Christ within them to the Family.
    Every member is important because every member carries the presence of the Lord. As the Family lives in an awareness of the Father’s presence, His life flows through the Body and makes them one.
    8 min

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