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This podcast explores the deeper work of God beyond salvation and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The family emphasize that true oneness in the Body of Christ is formed not by gifts or experiences, but by the purifying fire of God that burns away the old nature. Many believers stop after initial experiences with the Lord, but God calls His people into a progressive, transformative journey that requires hunger, submission, and surrender.
SHOW NOTES
- Many believers move in gifts but lack ongoing hunger.
- Gifts alone do not produce oneness—only continual revelation does.
- The Holy Spirit gives power but not transformation by itself.
- The fire burns away carnality, individuality, and self-centeredness.
- The early church was forged in fire—pressure, persecution, divine dealings.
- True oneness forms when people face fire together.
- When tested, believers can either submit or become bitter.
- Trials expose the “chaff”—selfishness, attitudes, and old patterns.
- God won’t force surrender.
- The key is asking what God desires.
- Believers were bought with a price.
- Self-will and personal control must submit to the potter’s hands.
- Being Christ’s disciple means relinquishing ownership of one’s life.
- Christ leads; believers follow.
- “This is just who I am” is not truth—God plans to remake His people.
QUOTES
Ken:
“The gift without the hunger leaves something lacking.”
“There is more. It’s an exciting, eventful journey into God.”
“You’re the one God wants to change and create in His image.”
Ron:
“You may move in the gifts and still be very carnal.”
“The fire is the next step God is requiring.”
“If you’re not your own, you don’t get to make the decisions about your life anymore.”
Debbie:
“To become a son, you must go through the fire.”
“To be a Kingdom disciple means I no longer belong to myself—I belong entirely to Christ.”
“If Christ leads, nothing is wasted.”
Mike:
“You are not your own… you were bought with a price.”
“We glorify God by letting Him come through the vessel.”
Lois:
“What is being burned out? Selfishness. All of those attitudes.”
SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES
- 1 Corinthians 6 (19–20)
- Acts 2 – Day of Pentecost
- Acts 5 (1–11) – Ananias & Sapphira
- Philippians 1 (6)
- Malachi 3 (2–3)
- Romans 12 (1–2)
- Luke 22 (42)
- Isaiah 64 (8)
- John 17 (21–23)
TAKEAWAY
The pathway to oneness in the Body of Christ is formed in the fire of God that burns away the old nature and forms His likeness in us. The fire reveals motives, removes selfishness, reshapes our identity, and brings us into a unity only God can create. Oneness is born when believers surrender their will, humble their hearts, embrace God’s dealings, and allow Christ to fully live through them. The fire is not punishment—it is formation, God’s love forging His sons into His image, together.