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This week on the Scouting the Refs Podcast: Two goals at Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Calgary Flames that required a second look -- one for a missed hand pass and another for a kick to a stick and in. Todd and Josh break down both plays, along with a goal from Edmonton Oilers' Zach Hyman called back for an offside, some mid-air stickwork by Montreal Canadiens' Cole Caufield, officials' All-Star Game jerseys, and the impressive success of the Maple Leafs' video crew on Coach's Challenges. Also on this week's #RefsPodcast, we look at some high hits from Tampa Bay Lightning's Emil Martinsen Lilleberg on Anaheim Ducks' Brett Leason, Toronto's Morgan Rielly on Detroit Red Wings' Joe Veleno, and an obviously illegal one from Seattle Kraken's Yanni Gourde on Edmonton's Mattias Ekholm, along with asking: is the NHL's Department of Player Safety working?


(Immediately after recording this podcast, DOPS handed out two disciplinary rulings, proving that talking about DOPS is like mentioning that your team's goalie has a shutout going...)


Visit scoutingtherefs.com and follow @scoutingtherefs and @toddlewissports on Twitter/X, Instagram, and Threads. Email us your questions - [email protected] #RefsPodcast

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The Scouting The Refs Podcast is a weekly look at the world of officiating and player safety within the National Hockey League, AHL, ECHL, and other leagues around the world. We'll break down the calls and the rules behind them to help understand why a penalty or suspension was - or wasn't - handed out. Todd Lewis is a veteran broadcaster covering the NHL and other major league sports. Lewis is a former host on the NHL Network and on NHL Network Radio. He’s also worked for TSN, Sportsnet as a host/anchor and is a producer of other programs. Josh Smith is the founder of Scouting the Refs, the leading independent site related to hockey officiating which follows hockey officials across the NHL, AHL, ECHL, and other leagues around the world, including news, rule changes and interpretations, suspensions, and statistics on officials and penalty calls. 

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