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What if the thing you want most is the thing you keep talking yourself out of?

This weekend, a walk with my husband turned into a full-on dissection of why we resist our own desires. Whether it's a bigger house, a new role, a book we want to write, or even something as simple as ordering a certain dessert — we are so quick to tell ourselves all the reasons we don't really want it. But what if underneath that dismissal is something worth listening to? What if the real reason we push our desires away isn't logic, but fear — specifically, the fear of how we'll feel if we go for it and don't get it? That's what we're unpacking today: how to get curious about what we truly want, examine the stories we tell ourselves, take aligned action, and build the emotional capacity to handle whatever outcome comes our way. Because the journey toward something we genuinely desire? That's what it's all about anyway.

Highlights:

• Why we don't trust our own desires — and how influenced we might be by outside voices
• The common stories we tell ourselves to talk us out of wanting what we want
• Using the "bigger house" example to dig down to the real why behind a desire
• How fear of failure (and fear of the feelings that come with failure) keeps us from trying
• Why resilience matters — and how this applies to business owners, entrepreneurs, and aspiring authors
• How emotional agility work (inspired by Susan David) changed the way I see feelings and action
• The practice of getting curious about a desire, finding the core intention, and taking aligned action
• Why failure is part of the game — and why the journey itself is the reward

Chapters:

1:03 — The Walk That Sparked It All

1:55 — Why Is It So Hard to Admit What We Want?

3:04 — Examining the Stories We Tell Ourselves

3:39 — Fear of Failure and the Bigger House Example

4:10 — Why We're Really Not Trying

5:52 — Resilience, Business, and the Book You Want to Write

6:15 — Emotional Agility and the Power of Managing Feelings

7:55 — Get Curious and Take Aligned Action

8:39 — Failure Is Part of the Game

9:44 — Farewell and Happy October

Resources:

• Susan David — Emotional Agility

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Has your relationship with health and fitness become more about punishment than care? That's the question at the heart of today's conversation. Kendra Moody returns to the show—not in her role as COO of The Thread, but as founder of Restore Health Coaching—to talk about what it really takes to build a sustainable wellness lifestyle, especially for women navigating their second act. We cover why so many women put their health on hold, the mindset shift from punishing your body to nourishing it, and practical steps for eating more protein, moving daily, and staying hydrated. Kendra also breaks down GLP-1 medications and what women in their 40s and 50s should prioritize for longevity.

HIGHLIGHTS

• Why women tend to neglect their health while raising families or climbing the career ladder—and when that pattern finally shifts
• The mindset shift from "how hard can I go and how little can I eat" to "how do I care for my body, not punish it"
• Why eating more protein (not less food) is one of the most common changes Kendra helps women make
• How meal prepping is really about making it easier for your future self to stay committed to your goals
• Why the all-or-nothing mindset is a trap—and how to enjoy treats without throwing in the towel
• Three priorities for women in their 40s and 50s: protein, movement, and hydration
• What GLP-1 medications actually do, why they aren't a forever solution, and why building foundational habits alongside them matters
• A rapid-fire round of "Do This, Not That" covering intermittent fasting, hard workouts, lifting weights, and rest days
• Why lifting weights won't make women bulky—and why it's essential as we age
• How to find 20 minutes you didn't know you had (hint: check your phone)

CHAPTERS

1:38 — Why Health Gets Neglected

3:48 — What Wellness Really Means

5:35 — Mindset Shift to Restore

7:36 — Eat More Protein

9:00 — Meal Prep and Treats

13:32 — All or Nothing Trap

15:29 — Where to Start Today

17:57 — Protein, Movement, Hydration

21:51 — GLP-1s Explained

26:26 — Do This, Not That

32:19 — Find Restore Health

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Restore Health Coaching — Kendra Moody's health coaching practice 

(also on Instagram at @restore.healthcoaching)

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What happens when achievement starts costing you aliveness? Dr. Kristen Strom joins the show to share her story of chasing success as a professor, wife, and mother—only to realize that the life she'd built was slowly draining the life out of her. From missing her kids' sporting events to feeling numb at the mention of a university teaching award, Kristen opens up about the red flags she ignored, the wake-up calls she couldn't, and the small, daily habits that quietly rewrote her entire future. We talk about what it really takes to stop hustling, start listening to your body, and build a life where you don't have to sacrifice the people you love to do the work you love. If you've ever looked in the mirror and not recognized the woman staring back, this conversation is for you.

HIGHLIGHTS

• Kristen's realization that she was succeeding professionally but losing herself personally—missing her kids' events, running on empty, and ignoring years of physical red flags
• The numbness that set in even after receiving a student-nominated teaching award and a national publication—achievements she'd worked her whole career for
• How her son's words in the car one morning became a mirror reflecting her own stress back at her
• The two wake-up call moments: a vacation photo where she didn't recognize herself, and a mirror moment at 38 wondering what her 40s would feel like if nothing changed
• The health reset Kristen and her husband undertook together—from nutrition and fitness to mindset and emotional wellness
• Kristen's 10-minute power practice: brain dumping, setting three intentions, and expressing gratitude before the day begins
• Why high achievers should think smaller, not bigger, when creating change—and how tiny habits compound over time
• The identity work required to believe you're worth the investment—and to envision a future self worth becoming
• How fear and discomfort are not signs to stop but signals that you're in the growth process
• Kristen's transition from professor to speaker and transformational life coach, and her mission to help women thrive without turning healing into another achievement
• The power of getting quiet enough to hear what you actually want—and the freedom of saying no to good opportunities that don't align

CHAPTERS

2:22 — Professor Life Pressure Cooker

3:59 — Red Flags And Burnout

5:56 — Numb To Achievements

7:54 — Kids Mirror The Stress

11:02 — Restoring Marriage And Home

11:56 — Health Reset And Mindset

15:38 — Two Wake-Up Call Moments

17:16 — What Do You Want Instead

18:37 — Small Habits That Stick

21:21 — Ten Minute Power Practice

23:45 — Dream Smaller, Compound Wins

26:52 — Identity, Beliefs, And Future Self

29:22 — Fear, Peaks, And Resilience

31:13 — Turning Healing Into Purpose

35:07 — Quiet Clarity And Saying No

38:04 — How To Work With Kristen

39:08 — Final Thanks And Wrap-Up

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Dr. Kristen Strom's website

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Have you ever felt that subtle shift — the one where something inside has moved, but you can't quite name it yet?

That feeling is exactly what today's guest, Keveney Avila, founder of The Interior, helps people navigate. After a decade practicing law — including pro bono work with unaccompanied immigrant children and human trafficking survivors — Keveney's life pivoted in a way she never could have planned. Her dog's seizures became a wake-up call that her own stress and frustration were literally affecting the energy around her, and that moment set her on a completely new path.

We talk about what energy work actually means (in language that's accessible whether you come at it from science, faith, or somewhere in between), the low-grade grief that so many high-achievers carry without naming it, and why the journey has to eventually turn inward. Keveney shares what it means to build an inner container strong enough to hold both joy and sorrow at the same time, why you can never outthink the energy in your gut, and one simple practice you can try today the next time you feel stirred up. If the life you've built no longer fits, or you're standing at a crossroads wondering what comes next, this conversation is for you.

HIGHLIGHTS

• How a lawyer's decade of practice — including work with human trafficking survivors — led her to energy work
• The story of Keveney's dog having five seizures overnight and how it became the catalyst for leaving corporate
• Why Keveney made more money her first year as an entrepreneur than she ever did in corporate
• How energy can be understood through science, faith, prayer, or quantum physics — and why it's accessible no matter your belief system
• Who Keveney's clients typically are (most are in their 50s to 60s) and why they seek her out
• The concept of "low-grade grief fever" — grieving an identity you thought you'd have
• Why we need people who can sit in the darkness with us without flinching
• The law of sacrifice and why we can't have everything, even in a culture that says we can
• The "golden thread" — how seemingly unrelated chapters of your life connect
• Why you can never outthink the energy in your gut, no matter how many affirmations you do
• Building an inner container to hold both the greatest joy and deepest sorrow simultaneously
• Discernment: how to tell whether you're intuiting from your ego or your body
• The simple pause practice — how to check in when you notice your body stirred up
• Why meditating while stressed can actually amplify that energy, and what to do instead

CHAPTERS

1:52 — From Law to Intuition

2:37 — Dog Seizures Wake Up Call

4:32 — Quitting Corporate Leap

5:10 — Animals to Human Healing

7:44 — Energy Made Practical

10:36 — Success That Stops Fitting

12:21 — Naming Hidden Grief

14:48 — Sitting In The Dark

17:04 — Choosing One Life

19:10 — Sacrifice And Flow

23:19 — Gut Energy Over Mindset

25:46 — Building The Inner Container

28:57 — Discernment And Old Stories

31:28 — Simple Pause Practice

36:18 — Rinsing Off Energy

38:17 — Where To Find Keveney

39:46 — Closing Thanks

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Keveney Avila’s Website - keveneyavila.com

Keveney Avila on LinkedIn 

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What if the permission you've been waiting for to slow down was yours to give all along?

Karen Bartholomew knows firsthand what burnout looks like — running from 6 AM to 9 PM, no time for a cup of coffee, no room to breathe. In 2010, as a single mom of three, she hit a wall and gave herself four months to figure out what she actually wanted. That pause didn't just change her life — it became the foundation of The Pause Method, a five-step framework she now uses to help high-achieving women strip away the conditioning, stories, and expectations that have been running the show, so they can design their next chapter with clarity and confidence. Karen and I talk about the fear of slowing down, the difference between scarcity and abundance, why we carry childhood stories into our fifties, and how courage isn't always about moving forward — sometimes it's about being still.

HIGHLIGHTS

• How Karen recognized her own breaking point in 2010 and gave herself permission to pause
• The difference between a scarcity mindset and an abundance mindset — and how childhood conditioning hides our natural abundance
• Why fear of the future is really our imagination running wild with stories that haven't happened
• The childhood story Karen told herself at age 12 — that she wasn't loved — and how she learned it wasn't truth
• A powerful moment in a classroom exercise that helped Karen discover her voice and step into leadership
• How Karen coaches her own daughter through childhood conditioning at age 26
• The five steps of The PAUSE Method: Perceive, Acknowledge, Unwind, Shift, and Embody
• Why slowing down feels so scary — and what we're really afraid of facing
• The courage to be still, ask "What do I need today?" and let that be enough
• Why you don't need a crisis to deserve a pause

CHAPTERS

1:51 — Why Women Seek Change

2:02 — Burnout And Overload

3:08 — Asking For Help

3:50 — Karen's 2010 Breaking Point

4:41 — Taking A Four Month Pause

8:26 — Fear Of The Future

11:17 — Scarcity Versus Abundance

12:06 — Childhood Stories And Conditioning

15:39 — Finding Your Voice

17:32 — Coaching Through The Past

18:23 — The PAUSE Method Steps

22:46 — Embodying The New Truth

24:49 — Designing The Next Six Months

25:33 — Courage To Be Still

27:18 — How To Work With Karen

27:56 — Rest Without A Crisis

28:22 — Retreats And Closing Thanks

RESOURCES

Karen Bartholomew's website: karenbartholomew.com

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What if the guilt you feel every time you say "no" is actually costing you more than the yes ever could? After a peer advisory group session turned into an unexpected goldmine of ideas, I knew I had to bring it straight to you. If you're a people-pleaser, a do-gooder, or someone who feels a pang of guilt every time you turn someone down, this one's for you. I'm sharing the practical frameworks that came out of that conversation — from budgeting your time like a budget line item, to getting curious about what people actually want from you, to understanding why your "no" protects the power of your "yes." We also get into the guilt-versus-pride dynamic between how women and men tend to overcommit, and why learning to trust your body's signals might be the most important skill of all as we head into Q4.

Highlights

• Why saying no matters more than ever heading into the last stretch of Q3 and into Q4
• Budgeting your time like money: predetermine how many "yeses" you can afford to give
• Asking for the "why" behind a meeting request before automatically saying yes
• How offering a group workshop can turn one-on-one asks into a scalable win-win
• The idea that unchecked "yeses" dilute in power if you never say no
• Creating a "not now" list of things you're saying no to for this season of life
• Learning to trust your body's signals over your mind's endless search for reasons to say yes
• The difference between guilt-driven overcommitment (often seen in women) and pride-driven overcommitment (often seen in men)
• Why it's okay for "no" to come with a little guilt sometimes

Chapters

0:00 — Why Saying No Matters

2:57 — Time Budget Your Yeses

4:14 — Ask For The Why

7:09 — Offer A Group Workshop

9:09 — Protect The Power Yes

9:59 — Create A Not Now List

11:27 — Trust Your Body Signals

13:42 — Guilt, Pride, And Overcommit

16:50 — Closing Pep Talk

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What if the way you've shown up for the people you love has quietly changed — and that's actually okay? This week, Audra reflects on a simple moment (last-minute ice cream sandwiches vs. planned-out chocolate banana popsicles for her son's birthday treats) that cracked open a much bigger conversation about navigating seasons of change, letting go of guilt, and learning to sit with discomfort instead of controlling your way around it.

Highlights

• Audra compares showing up for her son's first-grade birthday treats (homemade chocolate-dipped banana popsicles) versus his fifth-grade birthday treats (last-minute Kroger ice cream sandwiches) — and how the joy was the same despite looking completely different.
• Why we talk ourselves out of embracing change by judging our current selves against who we used to be.
• The three things Audra is personally processing while going through her own season of change (including the recent evolution of "the thread").
• Letting go of the need to explain your choices to others before making a change.
• Learning to examine the stories you tell yourself about your identity and success — even the positive ones.
• Building your capacity for discomfort instead of over-controlling outcomes, including how her emotional agility certification has helped.
• Practical ways to "anchor back to yourself" during uncertain seasons — stillness, movement, or connection.

Chapters

1:04 — Happy August: back-to-school fatigue and why you're not alone

2:28 — A tale of two birthday treats: first grade vs. fifth grade

5:15 — This season of change: why we resist embracing it

8:12 — Three things Audra is processing through her own transition

9:36 — Letting go of "what will people think?"

12:32 — Examining the stories you tell yourself

14:16 — Getting comfortable with discomfort

17:46 — Closing thoughts for the week

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Yes, we are still friends. No, the band is not breaking up. 

Are you really ready to let go of something that isn't broken? That's the question at the heart of this episode, as Audra sits down with Kendra and Kristen to share the news: after 11 cohorts in Wichita and 3 in Kansas City, The Thread is holding one final cohort before evolving into something new—an alum-first community. They get into the "why" behind the pivot, the mixed public reaction, and what's coming for The Thread's 300+ alumnae in 2027.

Highlights

• The Thread will run one last cohort (Cohort 12) from October through March, with a welcome party in the spring for alum and new members
• After a year of curiosity and "itchy" feelings about what's next, the team decided to pause cohorts and double down on alum programming
• A "what if" brainstorming session sparked the idea: what if The Thread centered on alum instead of cohorts?
• A summer listening session with ~30 alumnae from Cohorts 1–11 confirmed the demand for deeper alum community and support
• New alum offerings in the works include mastermind groups and revamped book clubs
• The mission stays the same—building confidence and community—but the focus shifts from delivering a program to alumnae to engaging with them directly
• The team addresses public reaction (a mix of excitement and confusion) versus the alum community's overwhelmingly positive response
• They answer the most common question they've gotten: "Are the three of you still friends?" (Yes.)

Chapters

0:00 – Welcome and Updates

1:51 – Why Change Now

4:52 – Final Cohort Details

5:42 – Public Reaction and Emotions

10:35 – Alum Momentum and Vision

11:22 – What If Alum First

12:51 – Listening Session Insights

16:18 – New Alum Programming Plans

20:18 – Still Friends

21:22 – Join Cohort 12 and Next Steps

23:56 – I will be the Jessica Biel to your JT

Resources Mentioned

• Cohort 12 (deadline to apply: September 25, 2026)

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What does it look like to stop running from tension and start letting it fuel you? Fresh off two full days at the Global Leadership Summit in Wichita, I'm sharing the lessons that hit me hardest — the kind that make you reconsider the way you've been thinking about discomfort, uncertainty, and what freedom actually means. I'm also throwing in a bonus lesson from a kid-free night and Season 4 of Ted Lasso, because sometimes the most profound wisdom shows up in the most unexpected places.

Highlights

• Why tension isn't something to escape — it's the fuel that drives growth
• How to reframe the tension between ambition and real life demands (contentment vs. ambition, work vs. family, self vs. craft)
• The concept of "the fog" — why uncertainty is a universal human experience, not a personal failure
• Why you should avoid big, irreversible decisions when you're in a foggy season
• The power of looking down at your feet and taking just the next right step
• Jim Collins' reframe of freedom: not the ability to do anything, but the ability to choose your responsibilities
• Ben Franklin's second act — and why 53% of his biographies cover his life after age 60
• Why self-renewal is a leadership responsibility, not a luxury
• A (mostly spoiler-free) lesson from Ted Lasso Season 4, Episode 1 on taking bold leaps

Chapters

1:04 – Summit Recap Kickoff

2:05 – Embracing Tension (David Ashcraft, President & CEO of the Global Leadership Network)

4:09 – Navigating the Fog (Jim Collins)

7:42 – Freedom and Self-Renewal (Jim Collins)

11:14 – Bonus Ted Lasso Lesson

12:50 – Wrap Up & What's Coming Next Week

Resources Mentioned

• Global Leadership Summit
• What to Make of a Life by Jim Collins
• Suzy Welch's Values Bridge

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What if the way you think about self-trust is actually keeping you from it?

Audra breaks down a coaching conversation that flipped her thinking on self-trust — and shares the real definition that's helped her stop abandoning herself every time she falls short of a goal. Then she walks through five practical habits she's built over the past few years to strengthen that trust from the inside out.

Highlights

• Why self-trust isn't about always making the right decision or hitting every goal
• A reframe: trusting yourself to make the best decision with what you have right now — and not abandoning yourself when it doesn't work out
• Five ways to build self-trust: self-compassion, knowing how you operate, tracking your wins, surrounding yourself with mirrors, and coaching
• Why forgiving yourself and giving yourself grace is the foundation of confidence
• The power of a weekly practice of recording 3–5 wins
• How working with a coach helps you access answers you already have

Chapters

0:00 — Back to School Setup

0:22 — Redefining Self Trust

1:40 — Self Trust Means Staying

3:08 — Five Ways Overview

3:34 — Self Compassion First

4:59 — Know How You Work

6:46 — Track Your Wins

8:09 — People Who Mirror You

9:08 — Coaching Builds Trust

10:13 — Quick Wrap Up

Resources Mentioned

• Emily Stevens
• Susan David
• Ashley Watkins

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