10/17/2024: This episode was recorded and uploaded on October 11, 2024 with a previous title using the One Direction song "Long Way Down". For obvious reasons, we decided to change the name upon hearing the news of Liam's passing. This is a really sad and complicated time for all of us as fans. How exactly do we mourn the loss of life of someone we have idolized for more than a decade, while holding on to the anger and hurt he caused so many of us when allegations of his past abuse and weaponization of fan support were revealed? We don't know the answer ourselves.
We hope that wherever you are you're okay and safe and surrounded with support. We will be back in a few weeks when we figure out how to responsibly record a podcast about someone's death.
TW: Discussions of allegations of Domestic Abuse, Sexual Harassment, and Predatory Behavior.
Domestic Abuse Resources:
Liam’s been cancelled (again), so Em and Kay are back to talk about it.
(Everything we've discussed here is alleged and solely commentary. We don't know anything about Liam Payne or any other parties involved, so we are commenting on what we've heard online.)
00:14- 16:44: Intro and listener comments
16:49- 1:12:43: Liam’s wrong doings (allegedly)
1:12:51-1:34:08: Current pop culture obsessions (Heartstopper and F1)
We think this might be a more regular podcast again as there is a lot to catch up with the five members, (and Kay has gotten over her grievances with Harry that she’s able to engage more fully with his present career).
ps. (I am still having sound quality issues... and I'm ok with that and hope you can be too. <3)