This is a special crossover episode where we're sharing a recent conversation between Andrew Soren and Sonya Looney from her podcast, The Sonya Looney Show.

In this episode, Andrew takes the guest seat as Sonya interviews him about the complex relationship between meaningful work and well-being, exploring why work that feels deeply important can sometimes lead to exploitation or burnout.

• Understanding eudaimonia and its relationship to meaningful work
• The "dark side" of meaningful work and how passion can lead to self-exploitation
• Six different ways people find meaning in their work, from utilitarian purposes to service
• The critical balance between meaning and workplace decency
• How mattering—feeling valued and adding value—influences job satisfaction and retention
• The role of organizations and leadership in fostering sustainable meaningful work

This episode was originally recorded for The Sonya Looney Show and is shared here as part of a special two-part crossover series.

Don't miss our next episode of Meaningful Work Matters where Sonya will join as our guest to discuss navigating perfectionism, redefining achievement, and using our goals to create positive impact.

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