Why is treating trauma much more complex than just dealing with our own reactions?

In this episode of A State of Mind, Julian Royce sits down with Dr. Eric Wolterstorff, a veteran body-based psychotherapist, sociologist, and core trainer with the Trauma Integration Protocol (TIP).

Together, they explore how traumatic memory lives in the autonomic nervous system, how to break down overwhelm using Peter Levine's SIBAM model, expanding your relational "permission space," and why true integration requires addressing the entire "scene of the crime"—including the victim, savior, bystander, and perpetrator roles within us.

About Dr. Eric Wolterstorff

Dr. Eric Wolterstorff began studying with Peter Levine in 1993, extending his work into memory systems, transference, and group dynamics. He trained in Hakomi bodywork with Pat Ogden and Worldwork with Max Schupbach and Arnie Mindell, earning a doctorate in group traumatology. He created the TIP trainings and leads Sovereignty First.

Eric leads a yearly six-month TIP Transference Training, beginning each October. This year’s training begins October 21, 2026, with a five-day intensive in Greenwood Village, Colorado, followed by five months of live online learning. Registration closes September 30.

Learn more: TIP Transference Training

Main Topics Covered

• The Evolution of Somatic Therapy: Early work with Peter Levine, Hakomi bodywork, and Sensorimotor Psychotherapy.
• The SIBAM Model: Deconstructing trauma into basic sensory "letters" to gently process charge through the nervous system.
• Redefining Trauma as Disruption: Understanding disruptions in safety, attachment, family systems, and community culture.
• The "Scene of the Crime": Why healing requires integrating every role in our memory, including the bystander and perpetrator.

Connect with the Guest

• Website: Sovereignty First
• LinkedIn: Dr. Eric Wolterstorff
• Trauma Protocol: TIP Website

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Is music more than just entertainment? Can sound re-architect our nervous systems and create deep human connection?

In this episode of A State of Mind, Julian Royce sits down with Murray Hidary, classical composer and creator of the global music project Mind Travel. An early internet pioneer who co-founded EarthWeb and Dice.com in the 1990s, Murray now brings live music and nature together for over 200 silent headphone concert experiences annually.

Together, they explore the parallels between coding and classical counterpoint, the neurobiology of sound perception, curating an intentional "auditory diet," and why music acts as a multidimensional language for emotional integration.

Main Topics Covered

• The Early Internet & Tech Boom: Building EarthWeb, putting major institutions online, and founding Dice.com.
• Left-Brain Meets Right-Brain: How Bach's mathematical counterpoint bridges logic and artistic expression.
• The Physics of Sound: How acoustic vibrations transform into internal emotional experiences within the brain.
• Curating Your Auditory Diet: Managing noise pollution, silence, and intentional listening for nervous system health.
• The Multidimensional Language of Music: Why music expresses complex, non-linear emotional states better than spoken words.

Key Takeaways

• Music Happens Inside: External sound is just molecular motion; music is an internal creation of human perception.
• Acoustic Nutrition: What you listen to throughout the day directly impacts your cortisol levels, stress, and mood.
• Therapeutic Potential: Sound and music therapy offer scientifically validated pathways for reducing anxiety and supporting recovery.

Connect with the Guest

• Website: Murray Hidary Official
• MindTravel: MindTravel – Connect, Reflect, and Heal Through Music
• Instagram: @murrayhidary
• YouTube: @murrayhidary

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Is it possible that your thoughts, shadow patterns, and digestive health are deeply interconnected?

In this episode of A State of Mind, Julian Royce connects with organizational development consultant and meditation practitioner Jonathan Mozenter. After discovering integral philosopher Ken Wilber and studying under Dr. Daniel P. Brown, Jonathan transformed his approach to mind mastery, shadow work, and human flourishing.

Together, they explore Western psychology and Eastern traditions, breaking down metacognition, how parts work (IFS) helps resolve chronic health issues like Crohn's and IBS, and why "waking up, cleaning up, and growing up" are essential for human development.

Main Topics Covered

• Integral Theory & Dzogchen: How Ken Wilber and Dr. Daniel P. Brown introduced Jonathan to Mahamudra and Vajrayana Buddhism.
• Subjective Science of Consciousness: Using meditative traditions as a precise method for investigating internal reality.
• Metacognition and Parts Work: Stepping out of reactive mental loops with real time self-awareness and Internal Family Systems (IFS).
• Mind-Body Connection: How digesting emotional childhood trauma helped resolve physical gut issues like Crohn's and IBS.
• Reframing ADD/ADHD: Understanding attention challenges as mental strategies to avoid intense emotions.
• Three Maps of Awakening: Navigating meditation stages, from natural state awareness to daily integration.

Key Takeaways

• Emptiness Means Radical Openness: Realizing your perspective is shaped by conditioning opens your heart to other possibilities.
• You Are Not Your Thoughts: Developing the inner witness allows you to see thoughts as temporary phenomena.
• Gratitude is an Energy State: Starting your day from appreciation changes how you relate to every experience.

Connect with the Guest

• Website: mozenter.com
• Instagram: @jonathanmozenter

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🚨 What actually happens when you sit alone in pitch-black darkness for 49 days?

In this episode of A State of Mind, host Julian Royce sits down with somatic psychologist, counselor, and meditation guide Adam Baraz. Growing up as the son of Spirit Rock co-founder James Baraz, Adam has spent a decade exploring human transformation, trauma, and expanded states of consciousness.

Together, they dive deep into the world of darkness retreats, from 24-hour unplugs to 49-day solitary journeys. Adam shares the neurochemical shifts of light deprivation (from Melatonin to Pinoline and DMT), navigating extreme dopamine detoxes, working with internal sub-personalities (IFS/Hakomi), and reclaiming the lost art of true solitude in an overstimulated world.

If you have ever been curious about extreme meditation practices, mind-body healing, or breaking free from digital addiction, this conversation offers profound insights into meeting yourself in the dark.

Main Topics Covered

• Growing Up in the Dharma: What it was like growing up with spirit leaders and how Adam carved his own path in somatic psychology.
• The Extreme Sport of Meditation: The mechanics, mindset, and experience of undergoing 49-day darkness retreats.
• The Chemistry of Darkness: Exploring the neurochemical shifts from Melatonin to Pinoline and 5-MeO-DMT during prolonged light deprivation.
• The Ultimate Dopamine Reset: How complete solitude acts as a powerful detox for phone addiction, comfort, and social validation.
• Parts Work in the Dark: Using Hakomi and Internal Family Systems (IFS) to dialogue with sub-personalities and shadow archetypes while alone.
• Reclaiming Chronos vs. Kairos Time: Unplugging from clock time and returning to the natural, organic rhythms of nature and the body.

Key Takeaways

• Solitude is a Modern Medicine: Stepping away from constant noise and distraction allows your nervous system to reset and bring dormant self-knowledge to the surface.
• Healing Requires Equanimity: Darkness retreats act as an "equanimity gym", amplifying physical and emotional discomfort so you can learn to meet yourself with compassion.
• Integration is Key: The real challenge is not just entering the dark, but bringing the insights and ego dissolution back into everyday social life.

Connect with the Guest

• Website: samadhibodywork.com
• Portfolio: adam-baraz.squarespace.com
• Instagram: @adam_baraz

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Ever wonder why so many of us feel stuck in our heads, disconnected from our bodies, or trapped in constant overthinking?

In this episode of A State of Mind, host Julian Royce sits down with Jason Demchok to explore how Eastern philosophy, Western psychology, and somatic awareness intersect. Together, they dive into the Four Natural Intelligences (Somatic, Emotional, Creative, and Strategic), how to release trapped trauma without over-analyzing it, and why true healing comes from trusting your body's innate wisdom.

If you have ever struggled with anxiety, gut issues like IBS, or felt spiritually exhausted by rigid meditation practices, this conversation offers a refreshing, experiential path back to wholeness.

Main Topics Covered

• The Four Natural Intelligences: Breaking down Somatic, Emotional, Creative, and Strategic intelligence, and how they work like tuned guitar strings in your daily life.
• Overcoming Physical & Mental Disconnection: How somatic awareness and posture work can help heal chronic issues like IBS and anxiety.
• Dzogchen & Tantra in Practice: Why higher Buddhist teachings are about relationship, embodiment, and letting your natural wisdom emerge rather than isolating yourself as a monk.
• Unlocking Creative Intelligence: Conquering the fear of public speaking, singing, and dancing by stepping into vulnerability and trusting the flow.
• The Future of Human Connection: Why AI and technology make real human experiences, community, and somatic presence more vital than ever.

Key Takeaways

• Your Body Has Innate Intelligence: Healing is not about fighting your body or forcing a solution; it is about listening to the wisdom already trying to emerge.
• Spiritual Growth Happens in Relationships: True practice is not just sitting alone on a meditation cushion; it is tested and embodied in how you connect with the world.
• Embracing Discomfort Leads to Expansion: Growth happens when you step out of your head and allow yourself to be vulnerable through movement, dance, and authentic expression.

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• Website: jasondemchok.com
• Instagram: @jason.demchok
• LinkedIn: Jason Demchok

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Ever wonder why you suddenly shut down or push people away when things get close?

In this episode of A State of Mind, host Julian Royce sits down with Reverend Bu Nan Brown: a Rinzai Zen priest, somatic attachment coach, and contemplative tea teacher. Together, they dive deep into how our earliest bonds form the subconscious "architecture of the mind," acting as a blueprint for how we handle love, fear, conflict, and safety.

If you have ever found yourself abruptly shutting down during a disagreement, or panicking at the slightest hint of distance from a partner, this episode is a must-listen. Bu Nan breaks down the mechanics of somatic attachment repair, explains why our screens are driving a massive loneliness epidemic, and highlights the powerful intersection between Western attachment theory and Buddhist teachings.

Main Topics Covered

• The Architecture of the Mind: How your attachment strategies are downloaded directly into your nervous system before you are two years old.
• The Daydreaming and Digital Trap: Why checking our phones 220 times a day feeds the left-brain ego while starving our right-brain capacity for true presence.
• Anxious vs. Avoidant Triggers: What actually happens to your biology during a fight, and why it takes a minimum of 20 to 30 minutes for your kidneys to clear stress hormones like cortisol and adrenaline.
• Western Attachment vs. Buddhist Non-Attachment: How secure attachment in the West and non-clinging in the East are actually two sides of the same coin: being fully open and resilient to reality.
• The Power of Co-Regulation: Why humans are biologically designed to soothe each other's nervous systems, and why the "lone cowboy" archetype is a recipe for chronic dysregulation.
• Adult Attachment Repair: Practical steps for repatterning early childhood conditioning using somatics, inner parts work, and compassion-based practices.

Key Takeaways

• It is Not Your Fault: No one blames a two-year-old for their survival strategies. Recognizing that your relational defenses are automatic, multi-generational downloads is the first step to silencing your inner critic.
• Healing Changes the Whole System: You do not need your partner or entire family to change first. When just one person in a relational system starts doing attachment repair work, the entire family dynamic naturally begins to shift.
• True Security is Internal: Secure attachment is not just about finding the perfect partner; it is about cultivating a loving, open-hearted connection with yourself and life itself.

Connect with the Guest

• Website: bunanbrown.com
• The Tea House: BoulderTeaHut.org
• Instagram: @bunan_brown

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This timeless episode was originally published on September 2nd, 2019. We are re-releasing this audio gem today because its profound insights on anxiety and mindfulness are more relevant now than ever before.

In this classic episode of A State of Mind, host Julian Royce sits down with Erric Solomon: a former Silicon Valley executive and MIT Artificial Intelligence scholar turned hardcore meditator. Erric is the co-author of Radical Happiness, alongside renowned Buddhist teacher Phakchok Rinpoche. Together, they dive into the stark contrasts between material progress and the limitless power of genuine, internal human consciousness.

From corporate tech models to ancient Tibetan Dzogchen metaphors, Erric maps out how modern society trains us to look outside ourselves for fulfillment. He breaks down why our habits of constant self-comparison leave us exhausted, why stuck commuters are often happier than beach daydreamers, and how we can systematically train our awareness to look at the "stone-thrower" rather than chasing every passing chaotic thought.

Main Topics Covered

• MIT AI Lab Spark: How a conversation with Marvin Minsky about the non-existence of a findable self fueled Erric's 40-year spiritual journey.
• The Daydreaming Paradox: A study showing why being present in a traffic jam brings more satisfaction than fantasizing about a Thai beach.
• Hedonic Pleasure vs. Eudaimonia: Aristotle’s classic distinction between fleeting short-term hits and profound, meaningful well-being.
• Workplace Care: Erric’s boom experience proving that manager empathy, not salary alone, drives retention.
• The Guru Matrix: Navigating skepticism around spiritual leadership and understanding his late teacher, Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche.
• The Lion and Dog Metaphor: An ancient teaching on why we must stop chasing individual thought "stones" and focus on the stonethrower.
• The Infallible Knower: Exploring the space of awareness that remains clear and quiet no matter what emotional storms arise.

Key Takeaways

• Relax Comparison: Contentment is stolen by our compulsive habit of measuring reality against an idealized fantasy version.
• The User Interface: Our daily concepts are merely a functional mask over a deeper, interconnected field of consciousness.
• Insight vs. Judgment: True intuitive insight remains light and pivots instantly; neurotic judgment tightens and doubles down.

Connect with the Guest

• Video: What is Radical Happiness?
• Shambhala Profile: Erric Solomon
• Website: radicallyhappy.org
• Samye Institute: samyeinstitute.org
• Instagram: @erric_solomon

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In this episode of A State of Mind, host Julian Royce sits down with spiritual teacher and master energy healer Tanin Matin to discuss shifting fleeting spiritual states into stable, lived traits through nervous system purification.

Tanin shares her raw journey through business dissolution, ego death, healing ancestral terror from the Iranian Revolution, and her first profound 5-MeO-DMT ceremony. They also break down social media addiction, the nuances of intuition, and reclaiming mental sovereignty from the digital matrix.

Main Topics Covered

• Trauma & Energy Healing: How small, unprocessed nervous system distortions pull us out of presence and block intuitive intelligence.
• States vs. Traits: Moving past momentary expanded spiritual states and stabilizing them as a permanent biological baseline.
• Lineage & Terror: Tanin opens up about liberating her body from the inherited cellular survival terror of the Iranian Revolution.
• 5-MeO-DMT Insights: Stepping into pristine fields of awake awareness, facing somatic fear, and unlocking effortless love.
• The Digital Simulation: Exploring attention economics, addictions to YouTube or Instagram, and boundaries to protect your energy.
• Nuances of Intuition: Discerning true inner knowing from hypervigilant survival strategies or trauma responses.
• Human Design: Slowing down decision-making and mastering your unique energetic wiring so your true channel can emerge.

Key Takeaways

• The Cosmic Joke: Stepping into a big life vision naturally orchestrates challenges to bring up the exact wounds you need to integrate.
• Feeling is Healing: Toxic positivity cannot bypass the deep somatic work of metabolizing frozen timelines of pain.
• Follow the Child: Honoring the innate wisdom that children bring into the world instead of forcing societal constructs on them.

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In this episode of A State of Mind, host Julian Royce sits down with sound practitioner Patti Downing to share her miraculous story of overcoming a terminal Stage 4 cancer diagnosis using Dr. Joe Dispenza quantum healing meditations and ancient sound frequencies.

Main Topics Covered

• Mystical Training: Patti’s 30-year history studying quantum mechanics and the power of the 4:00 AM theta wave meditation window.
• The Stage 4 Diagnosis: Facing systemic, incurable metastatic breast cancer that had spread throughout her organs, lungs, and bones.
• Rewiring Biology: The exact visualization and subconscious looping techniques Patti used to manifest a completely clear PET scan.
• Sound & Cellular Order: How handmade Tibetan singing bowls use resonance and cymatics to reorganize chaotic cellular fluid into perfect order.

Key Takeaways

• Leave the Known Body: True quantum healing requires detaching consciousness from the material body to drop old terminal cellular memories.
• Cellular Chaos: Physical illness is a state of disharmony. Intentional frequency and elevated emotions serve as natural ordering forces.
• Oncology Verdict: When asked how often they see total systemic tumor eradication from a Stage 4 baseline with medication alone, Patti's oncology team replied: Never.

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In this episode of A State of Mind, host Julian Royce sits down with Brit Lange, a community director and psychedelic advocate. Brit shares her journey from corporate insurance to a sudden layoff right after buying a home as a single mother. She discusses how that moment led to a deep spiritual connection and a profound experience with ketamine that transformed her life and career.

The conversation explores the regulated ("above-ground") and unregulated ("underground") psychedelic industries. Brit and Julian challenge commercialized clinical models, advocating instead for sacred set, setting, and community integration. They also discuss microdosing, the placebo effect, and how women’s hormonal cycles alter medicine experiences.

Main Topics Covered

• The Layoff as Catalyst: How Brit's job loss served as a necessary intervention to pull her out of corporate burnout.
• The Ketamine Epiphany: Experiencing circumstantial depression and discovering the efficacy of ketamine therapy.
• Right Relationship: Brit’s work with Mycelium, a microdosing company focused on intentional cultivation and generosity.
• Microdosing & Placebo: Why trials struggle to quantify microdosing and how the placebo effect proves the power of consciousness.
• Above-Ground vs. Underground: Weighing financial accessibility and creative freedom against regulated legal therapy.
• Who Heals the Healers?: The importance of peer consultation, integration circles, and protecting against dual relationships.
• Women’s Hormonal Health: How estrogen shifts, postpartum phases, and perimenopause dictate medicine journeys.

Key Takeaways

• What is Meant for You Won't Miss You: Navigating career shifts with surrender, trusting that transitions shake us out of misaligned situations.
• The Clinical Trap: A critique of fast-paced clinics that cut out music, setting, and integration to optimize profit.
• Microdosing for Integration: Using micro-doses as a baseline protocol to extend and integrate insights from macro-dose experiences.
• Discernment: In the unregulated frontier, rely on internal somatic cues to identify bad actors or ethical oversteps.

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Brit Lange (The Expansion Community): https://www.expansion.community

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