Have you ever wondered what it takes to navigate and sustain a 42-year independent creative career? Michael e. Stern is here to share a story about desire, goal-setting, perseverance, and resilience as he moves from being behind the camera to leading a team. In this conversation, he talks about who taught him what a producer does, his approach to communication and leadership, how he trusts his instincts and team, and how he meets people. I always learn from Michael, and this conversation is rich with wisdom and insight.