The third episode of the ‘A Tale Of Two Cities’ Podcast series presents Alice Parle, a visual artist focused on portraiture from Adelaide and Holly Johnson; a theatre director and lawyer from Canberra. Alice and Holly discuss the struggles of creating as young artists and the stigma surrounding forging a creative career. Alice reflects on her experience growing up on the Fleurieu peninsula (South of Adelaide) and its creative landscape distinct from that of the city. Holly shares her ambitions of using her knowledge of the law and her passion for the arts to support the wider creative community.