This is the last in our current set of interviews on surviving and thriving the in the pandemic and in this episode we chat to Marcela Widrig the founder of Fierce Embodiment. Marcela works with the body to release old beliefs, hurts and fears and Lisa attended a number of her workshops when she was here in Ireland, so this is a joyful reunion and a new meeting of kindred spirits for Joseph as you will hear for yourself.  An amazing conversation with deep wisdom, insight and shared joy.  We end the series on a high for sure!