A Very OK Podcast

Oklahoma had more than 50 All-Black towns at one time, more than any other state. A special panel of guests discusses the history of some of the towns and efforts being made today to revitalize them. Trait Thompson and Larry O’Dell from the Oklahoma Historical Society are joined by Shirley Nero from Clearview, Henrietta Hicks from Boley, and Sen. Kevin Matthews from Tulsa for an enlightening conversation.

After the Civil War, increased westward migration resulted in escalating violent conflict between the Plains Indian tribes protecting their ancestral lands and the new settlers. The 1867 Medicine Lodge Treaty failed to quell the violence, which resulted in Maj. Gen. Philip Sheridan’s new strategy of attacking the tribes in their winter camps. In November 1868, Lt. Col. George Custer’s troops marched out of Camp Supply and initiated a surprise attack on Cheyenne Peace Chief Black Kettle’s village on the Washita River. The battle, also referred to as a massacre, was the opening salvo in the US Army’s five-month campaign to force the Cheyenne into living on reservations.

December 7, 2021, marked the 80th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Trait Thompson and Dr. Bob Blackburn discuss how Oklahoma changed during World War II, and how the state was impacted for generations to come. Joe Todd, author of USS Oklahoma: Remembrance of a Great Lady, joins them and shares many stories that he has collected from Oklahoma’s World War II veterans. 

The post-World War II 1950s in Oklahoma were a coming-of-age era for a state that would celebrate its 50th birthday in 1957. From transportation to civil rights to the arts and sciences, Oklahoma’s advancement accelerated during this pivotal decade. Former Governor George Nigh joins Trait Thompson and Dr. Bob Blackburn for the entire episode to discuss his recollections of this era and share stories that only he can tell.

The Battle of Honey Springs was the largest and most important Civil War battle in Indian Territory. The battle returned control of Indian Territory to Union forces, and is also significant because the majority of the combatants were Native American and Black. In this episode, Trait Thompson and Dr. Bob Blackburn welcome Adam Lynn, director of the Honey Springs Battlefield historic site, as their special guest to discuss the important events of July 17, 1863. 

OHS Executive Director Trait Thompson and Dr. Bob Blackburn of the OHS’s A Very OK Podcast and Dr. Sunu Kodumthara of OH’s BrainBox lead a conversation about growing up in Oklahoma from multiple cultural perspectives—featuring special guests Kelli Brooke Haney and Javier Hernandez. This crossover episode was recorded in front of a live audience.

Since the inception of the aviation age, Oklahomans have made major contributions to the science of flight. In this episode, Trait Thompson and Dr. Blackburn discuss the early days of flight in Oklahoma and the notable Oklahomans such as Wiley Post, James Banning, and the Cessna brothers who left their marks in the history books. They also interview Randy Vierling, a longtime TWA pilot, who tells the story of a harrowing experience he had while piloting an airplane through a storm early in his career.

After the Civil War, Oklahoma played a major role in cattle ranching and the development of the frontier. Trait Thompson and Dr. Bob Blackburn discuss the people who made an impact during this critical time in history. They are joined by author and scholar Art Burton, who discusses the Buffalo Soldiers, Bass Reeves, and one of Indian Territory’s most notorious outlaws.

In this episode, we explore who brought golf to Oklahoma and where the first courses were located. We also discuss Oklahomans who made their mark in golf course architecture and women’s golf, and an Oklahoman who broke the color barrier in the PGA. Our guest is Steve Carson, Director of Golf at Lincoln Park Golf Course in Oklahoma City, which will be celebrating its centennial in 2022.

The horrific race massacre that took place in Tulsa during the evening and morning hours of May 31–June 1, 1921, still echoes through history. Trait and Bob discuss what happened during those fateful hours and how Oklahoma can begin to heal as the 100th anniversary approaches. Phil Armstrong, project director for the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre Centennial Commission, joins in the discussion.