Today on the show, Allen hosts a wide-ranging conversation with historian David McNally about the interlocking crises of the pandemic, economic recession, and racial injustice; the “social virus” being revealed by the pandemic; and the violence of money and the capitalist global order.

David McNally is the Cullen Distinguished Professor of History and Business at the University of Houston and Director of the Center for the Study of Capitalism. He is the author of seven books, including Global Slump: The Economics and Politics of Crisis and Resistance (PM Press, 2011), Monsters of the Market: Zombies, Vampires, and Global Capitalism (Brill, 2011), and the recently published Blood and Money: War, Slavery, and the State (Haymarket, 2020).

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