1:32 Aba's documentary share
3:20 Reinventing yourself daily
5:48 Aba, the brilliant mediator
6:30 Lolli gets triggered
7:35 All we ultimately want to do is protect
9:00 The 3 F words
11:20 We all left feeling heard
13:27 Jack was dying in front of me
14:30 Lolli's personality type
16:58 Aba's personality type
17:58 I was anxious and nervous for them
18:15 Lolli meets Elena (puppies!)
19:30 Please don't treat me like your client
20:15 Watching the highway of cars
23:30 Grandbaby joy and holy shit, this sucks
24:02 Storytelling brings clarity
25:42 Everyone can take good skills and go evil
27:27 Glampas + Jude's 'pop'cast