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I had the pleasure of speaking with Bart on this epsiode and discovering his journey so far. 

Bart spent years working and teaching in universities in Holland as a neuro-psychcologist before feeling and experiencing that change was needed. 

As a behavioural psychologist he thought he would naturally know what needed to change but he sought help and created new answers. 

There was some technical issues here in this podcast but I loved speaking with Bart as his energy is great to be around, I look forward to doing it again!

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