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  • #NiksTips on Poetry

    This is Poetry 101 brought to you by Accounting High (aka Sons of CPAs)

    Sponsored by LiveFlow, be sure to give this episode a go, they can help you grow, check them out at liveflow.io

    get 20% off for 3 months with promo code SONS at checkout, go to liveflow.io/sons

    Your Hosts, Emcees, Poets

    Nikole Mackenzie, CPA aka Niks

    Scott Scarano aka Lil Toddler aka Slim Scotty aka Esquired (S²) aka OKR (OK Rapper)


    Let’s give it up for this presentation

    Your hosts share their poetic creations

    Sick verses brought out by their imagination

    What they do is entertain and impart education

    Purpose? Connect the individuals in this profession


    4 Nikole shares her personal use cases for LiveFlow. Automation with an exclamation (point)!

    Go to liveflow.io/sons

    6 cooler than a polar bear's toenails

    Shoutout to OutKast, Andre 3000, Big Boi, Lil Wayne

    8 an accounting firm owner, podcaster, and rapper spits them bars!

    12 A tribute to OutKast, Scott’s writing this rap, but not so fast

    Shoutout to Andre Nickatina, Simon Sinek, Ron Baker

    15 I ain’t no fool thinking about how a podcast about accounting can be cool

    Shoutout to John Garret, Ignition

    18 ready to explore and get paid

    Shoutout to Jason Ackerman, CPA, CFP, CGMA, Kenji Kuramoto

    21 give it up for Niks as she throws down her sick licks

    Shoutout to Chewy, Greg Kyte, Earmark, Cloud Accounting Podcast, Reach Reporting

    24 #CPAliens we’re doing things that are foreign to the industry as a whole

    Shoutout to Handwrytten, Ian Vacin, Karbon

    29 This was written before I wrote it

    Shoutout to Blake Oliver, CPA, Lorilyn Wilson

    31 The evolution of getting CPEs in the present

    Shoutout to Fathom, Jimmie Allen

    35 People are the purpose and I purposefully work hard to stay ethically connected to the individuals in this profession

    Shoutout to Dave Matthews Band

    38 Educate and entertain authentically… That’s what we’re trying to do

    Shoutout to Chase Birky, CPA, Justin Kürn, Dark Horse CPAs, Katy Perry

    45 Does Scott need to change his profile photo in LinkedIn? Let us know!

    Shoutout to Liz Mason, Digits

    53 min
  • 060 The Accounting Game (feat. Chris Williams, CEO)

    Episode 60 | Recorded February 22, 2022

    Guest: Chris Williams, CEO of System Six

    Hosts: Nikole Mackenzie, CPA & Scott Scarano, EA

    Sponsor: Karbon - visit karbonhq.com to learn more

    Today, Scott and Niks are joined by Chris Williams, Owner/CEO of System Six, a 100%-remote outsourced accounting services firm. Before System Six, Chris served as an advisor to and investor in medium-large sized businesses. He’s worked for several fast growing companies, and holds a business degree from Stanford.

    2 - Chris = Cool (surprise engagements, running the media circuit, hitting the links ...)

    Shout out to DWYT, Kenji Kuramoto

    7 - How Chris’s finance background led to acquiring System Six

    Shoutout to Jeremy Allen

    11 - Numbers talk – revenue, and cashflow, and EBITDA, oh my!

    15 - Why cloud accounting is so hot right now

    17 - The System Six biz model

    18 - Opportunity in operations issues

    22 - Why it’s okay to lose clients

    24 - Chris is living his best life and he's wearing 10 different hats!

    26 - Learning curves inside System Six

    29 - Talking profit share, work/life balance, and staff shuffling

    32 - Cash v. Accrual v. Tax – the pain-point discussion

    Shoutout to Tallyfor, Peter Wen and Michael Ly

    37 - Should you switch to Karbon?

    Shoutout to Karbon

    41 - All about cybersecurity – email, system backups, passwords, insurance, etc.

    Shout out to AWS, QBO, Azure

    47 - Client conversions – should you, or shouldn’t you?

    Shoutout to Xero, Gusto, and Google

    49 - Tech Tool Talk

    51 - Grading clients – the red flags

    53 - Chris’s parting words of wisdom

    Don’t forget to subscribe and leave us a review!

    Connect with Chris:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-williams-68057029/

    System Six: https://systemsix.com/

    55 min
  • 059 (re)Pricing with Scotty & Nikole | #Varsity

    Episode 59 | Recorded May 31, 2022

    In this episode, your hosts Scott and Niks discuss repricing hows, whats, whens, and whys. Curious how other firms do it? Is your repricing strategy working? What value-added services do you think your clients would love? Come join us as we find out more about how we can reprice our services and make the whole process easier for your firm and your clients

    Thank you to our wonderful sponsor, LiveFlow... get 20% off for 3 months with promo code SONS at checkout, go to liveflow.io/sons

    2 - Once you price, your job has just started

    Shoutout to OnPay, Katelyn Hockmeyer

    3 - Pricing: the switch from hourly to fixed-fee billing

    4 - (re)Pricing our fees to our clients as their business grows (and our firms too)

    Shoutout to Brandon Hall, Jason Staats, CPA, MBA

    6  - Niks shares how her firm handles repricing

    Shoutout to Ashley Carroll

    11 - How can we identify our clients and customize our service to their needs

    Shoutout to James Ashford

    15 - Keeping things slow, steady, and natural

    Shoutout to Christopher Leon

    17 - Repricing woes with our clients

    18 - Even if you’re not charging more, you should still be adding more value over time

    Shoutout to Karbon, Ron Baker, Blake Oliver, CPA

    22 - Will time tracking be a thing of the past due to Subscription-based billing?

    26 - So either they're worried that they made too much or that they didn't make enough and they're shy. It's never just “here's my fucking numbers”

    28 - It’s easier to sell to your existing clients than it is to get new clients

    31 - If they could manage the relationship and they can manage the no's and yes's, and they understand the value that they’re bringing, that’s not chaotic at all

    Shoutout to Jeff Phillips, Shane Mason, and AJ

    36 - Scott and Niks discuss pricing your clients based on a percentage of their revenue. Scaling with your clients as they grow

    Shoutout to Ferrari, TheraNest, TherapyNotes, Xero, QuickBooks

    38 - The influence of influencers

    Shoutout to Jody Grunden

    43 - How do you pick your niche?

    Shoutout to Growbots, Madeline Reeves, Fearless Foundry

    46 - You always know you’re going to get taken care of whenever you use a client’s services

    49 - Niks and Scott share their firm's MRR... and their one-off compliance work is just icing on the cake

    Shoutout to Anisha Harjani, Kenji Kuramoto

    54 - Stay tuned for more AccountingHigh content. Peace out!

    57 min
  • 058 The Unique CPA is Bridging the Gap (feat. Randall J. Crabtree, CPA)

    Episode 58 | Recorded February 21, 2022

    Guest: Randall J. Crabtree, CPA (as per his CPA Certificate, but we're still not sure if "Jack" is spelled out, or if they just have the J)

    Hosts: Scott Scarano and Jason Ackerman, CPA, CFP, CGMA

    With us today is the Co-Founder and Partner of Tri-Merit, Randy Crabtree, who specializes in R&D Tax Credits, Cost Segregation, 179D, and 45LR. Also, host at The Unique CPA, a show where they go beyond compliance into forging new pathways of delivering value to clients, diversifying your revenue streams, and leading-edge management techniques and styles

    Today we get to hear about how going into niches and specialties make your firm better, or does it? Find out more as you listen and you’ll surely pick up a thing or two on how to best play on your strengths whether it’s on your personality or your skills.

    2 Riches in R&D Niches: Randy shares how they started going deep into the niches they specialize in

    Shoutout to Andrew Lane

    5 Don’t try to make yourself something you’re not

    6 Ti-Merit’s transition from percentage-fees to fixed-fees but value-based

    8 Holy cow! There's a big opportunity for taxpayers to save money with this, or put money back into businesses

    10 Did you tweet your Waze drives? Cause Scott did, unintentionally... yikes!

    Shoutout to Waze, Twitter

    11 #TaxTwitter

    13 Having too much fun to realize if you’re working too much or too little

    16 I wouldn't be surprised when $17MM is $35MM in just a couple of years

    Shoutout to Nicholas Pantaleo, CPA

    19 Back at it again to the numbers game with Randy

    20 Does your wife call you Randall? Do your parents call you Randall?

    22 Randy on selling R&D study and Cost Seg: I never sell anything so I don't have a pitch. What I do is educate

    23 Going deep into the R&D tax credit

    30 Randy’s path into living the best life

    Shoutout to John Garret, Earmark

    36 The Unique CPA podcast: How it started

    39 Oh how the tables have turned: Jason on the numbers game this time!

    40 Jumping from the generalist to the specialist

    44 Randy’s best piece of advice? Don’t force a square peg into a round hole

    Shoutout to Joshua Lance, CPA, CGMA

    46 Token Tax *wink wink*

    49 Reaching for the stars

    Shoutout to Ron Baker

    50 Aaaaaaaand that’s a wrap! Make sure you’re subscribed to this garde art piece of a podcast, Sons of CPAs/Accounting High

    48 min
  • 057 Atomic Habits for Accountants, Pt. 1: The Fundamentals | #FreshBookReports Vol. 1

    Episode 57

    #FreshBookReports @ Accounting High (the miniseries) - Part 1 | Recorded March 4, 2022

    Sponsored by Freshbooks

    Please welcome our newest faculty member at Accounting High, Twyla Verhelst, CPA 

    Twyla is the distinguished director of the Accountant Channel and leader of the FreshBooks Accounting Partner Program. She supports and empowers other accounting professionals as they help small businesses flourish.

    Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear. Whether you’ve read the book or you haven’t, this series of episodes will definitely open you up as to why it has been a favorite among our peers. Hosted by Scott Scarano, we get to hear from him and Twyla about how it impacted them in their practice and life, in general.

    Atomic Habits for Accountants Part 1 of 3

    2 This is a fresh take on a fresh book

    Shoutout Freshbooks

    3 The accounting profession is full of people who are constantly looking for opportunities to improve and we’re no different

    Shoutout James Clear

    6 I believe that you get what you need from a book at the time you read it, and some books are worthy of reading multiple times, for those books you are often rewarded in different ways each time you’re readying them.

    8 Scott's dilemma, he's either all in on something or I'm all out of it, never in the middle

    12 Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become

    13 Systems and goals: If you’re focusing on the systems and processes then you’re more likely to achieve your goals.

    16 You do not rise to the level of your goals. You fall to the level of your systems

    21 When habits become automatic you may start to see some BIG shifts in your life, but it’s a buildup of A LOT of the LITTLE things

    Shoutout Eminem & Michael Jordan

    23 Automatic and Automation: How they impact your profitability

    26 Habits reduce cognitive load and free up mental capacity by making the fundamentals of life easier, you can create the mental space needed for free thinking and creativity

    29 If you don't have to make a choice, you have a much better time with all of the other things, especially the big things

    31 Self-talk: How it can help you become the person you want to be

    34 When everybody becomes your friend, then you learn so much more

    37 Becoming the person that you want to be, starts with changing the person that you are

    38 Let’s hear how the Feedback Loop worked for Scott and his firm

    40 Twyla talks about her Video Per Day Experiment #vpdexperiment

    42 Scott and Twyla wrap up the first part of this miniseries, stay tuned for the next episode!

    44 min
  • #NiksTips on Promotions

    NiksTips on Promotions, as in when do you promote your employees? and the systems around that...

    Thank you to our wonderful sponsor, LiveFlow... get 20% off for 3 months with promo code SONS at checkout, go to liveflow.io/sons

    Co-Host; Nikole Mackenzie, CPA. 

    Niks helps agency owners save money, increase revenue, stay compliant, save time, eliminate stress, and ultimately give them the freedom to scale their recurring revenue businesses to a multimillion $ exit.

    What makes a good manager? What can and should you do if you want to be promoted? What are business owners factoring in when considering a promotion? Today, Scott and Niks give us a peek at how, as firm owners, they go through the process of promoting staff.

    6 Let’s hear from Niks the use cases of LiveFlow at her firm and how it has helped them automate their work processes

    Big shoutout to LiveFlow

    9 Sons of CPAs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re going to get

    Shoutout to numbers grrrrrl

    10 Start small but start big at the same time. Niks explains what this is about and how she goes about applying this in her firm

    Shoutout to 15Five

    12 It’s really important for team members to know where they stand and to know where they need to go

    15 Scott and Niks share their views on sharing your (financial) numbers (as a business) with your team

    Shoutout to Ashley Carroll

    17 Scott and Niks question if salary should be based on employee location and how this is changing/adapting as more companies embrace remote work

    19 Promotions based on tenure?

    24 We discuss how business owners view promotions. What should we consider when promoting our staff?

    27 Bring in people that are better than you

    29 Promotions: Is it about the money or the title?

    32 Scott shares insights on how staff accountability is handled at his firm

    Shoutout to Chris Leon, Matthew Meyer, Karbon

    37 Net profit sharing vs Gross profit sharing

    Shoutout to Nick Sinclair, TOA Global

    39 Salary being state-normalized to world-normalized

    Shoutout to Chad Davis

    44 Communication, transparency, and metrics. What’s being factored in a promotion?

    47 The nice part about having these salary ranges or just one salary for this position is you don't have to make those emotional decisions

    50 The grass is always going to be greener on the other side

    51 Did you know you can earn CPEs by listening to this podcast? check out Earmark

    Shoutout to Earmark

    53 min
  • 056 Making Accounting Scalable (feat. Matthew May, CPA)

    Episode 56 | Recorded February 18, 2022

    Today, we’ve got Eminem x 2 ... no, wait, M&Ms...and we’re going to let Matthew translate all things crypto, the Kenji plague, and his journey from employee to Tech CPA.

    Matthew May, CPA joined Acuity to translate accounting for entrepreneurs.  He does this by helping navigate tax and accounting rules and speaking entrepreneur, not an accountant; now, most people want to chat him up about cryptocurrency and blockchain. Matthew also likes to volunteer in the Georgia technology community and serves on the board of the Atlanta Technology Angels. He’s also got a seat on the Venture Atlanta Advisory Board.

    Marcus Mire, our honorable repeat co-host, is an entrepreneurial CPA helping clients become more efficient using cloud accounting and proactive tax planning at his firm, MireGroup CPAs.

    1 Eminem envy?

    3 Matthew’s Before

    Shoutout Arthur Andersen, EY, Austin, Atlanta, and Kenji Kuramoto

    5 Kenji and Matthew take over the world

    Shoutout Acuity, stupid multiples, and the Baylor Bears

    7 Old v. New – which way works better in accounting?

    9 On being the Fall Guy

    Shoutout KPMG, Deloitte, and EisnerAmper

    11 Building the product that serves the underserved

    13 Best part of escaping the Big Four

    15 Building the change-management muscle

    Shoutout Tupac, Black Sabbath, Bowie, and anyone else who sings about change

    17 Talking equity, profit sharing, and employee ownership models

    Shoutout Catching Clouds, Patti and Scott Scharf, and Lisa Gilreath, Acuity’s COO

    21 80 years of marriage, the rules of drinking, and abstinence?

    24 A tropical token story ...

    Shoutout BBI, St. Thomas, Ethereum, Bitcoin, Ivy Rose, and Blue Ivy

    27 From the sidelines – Matthew’s crypto expertise, and why he doesn’t play

    Shoutout AICPA Engage, Xerocon San Diego, and Consensus

    33 NFTs – what are they, really?

    Shoutout Budweiser, Drink While You Think, and Andy Warhol

    38 Matthew’s killer stablecoin idea

    Shoutout U.S. Treasury, Tether

    40 Name your price – what would entice Matthew to sell Acuity?

    Shoutout VerifyIQ, Super Bowl ads, and angel investing

    43 Tech + CPA + Entrepreneur

    Shoutout Cherry Bekaert, Entrepreneurs' Organization

    46 AAAlliteration

    Shoutout all the A-words, Ackerman (the Jason variety), and acronyms

    48 Eggs, kegs, dope-ass tailgating, and bonding

    Shoutout Coley and JW

    52 One is the loneliest number in entrepreneurism

    Shoutout EMINƎM, Proof, Matthew Meyer, AccountingWEB San Diego, XPAC (the Xero Partners Advisory Council), Scott’s imaginary publicist, the very real Gaynor Hardy, and Drip Blue Dream

    Matthew May, Founder, VP Sales and Marketing, Acuity

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thetechcpa/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/thetechcpa

    Website: https://acuity.co/

    Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/drink-while-you-think/id1593236213

    Marcus Mire, CPA

    Website: https://mire.group/

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MireCpa

    Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/make-it-count-with-marcus-mire-cpa/id1561004984

    57 min
  • A Refreshing Chat w/ Chad Davis @ Accounting High

    here's a BONUS chat with Chad Davis... and a preview of what to expect from Accounting High (School)

    Welcome to Accounting High! In this episode, we get to know more about the whats and whys of Podcasting from Scott and Chad. They share and scrutinize the ideas of how their episodes of AutomationTown and Sons of CPAs (Accounting High) come to life. Hear how authenticity reflects on the product and why talking to people that are smarter than you is the smart thing to do

    1 We all have to graduate middle school sometime, and the Sons are evolving.  Evolution is what Accounting High is all about, the evolution of the accounting profession and making room for the next generation.  Accounting High is the new school High School, but our listeners know that it's also a nod to getting high. I think in four years we'll be a bit more grown-up/mature and graduate... then we’ll change the name to "Accounting U"

    Shoutout to Yeti, Shure, Jason Staats

    2 Let’s hear from Chad what was the driving force behind starting their podcast (AutomationTown)

    Shoutout to Paul O’Mara

    4 You gotta be comfortable with doing some shitty stuff at first

    Shoutout to Zapier, Make (formerly Integromat)

    6 Authenticity is hard to come by but it shows on what you’re producing

    Shoutout to Blake Oliver

    9 This is for fun and something you can throw on while you’re at a barbeque

    Shoutout to Ignition

    13 Chad hopes to reach people in positions that kind of hate the monotomous part of their jobs and they can take some inspiration from the actions that occur

    17 People don’t agree with the way Chad sells accounting services, but he has a great relationship with the clients that come on board

    Shoutout to Xero

    22 Podcasts: How can we market them to mainstream operations people?

    Shoutout to Expensify

    24 Let’s find out what goes through Scott’s mind as he thinks about the future of Podcasting

    Shoutout to Nikole Mackenzie, Michael Ly, Jason Ackerman, Ron Baker, Peloton

    29 What will differentiate Accounting High from Sons of CPAs

    Shoutout to Relay

    41 min
  • 055 Intentional by Nature (feat. Chad Davis, CPA)

    Episode 55 | Recorded February 7, 2022

    Guest: Chad Davis, CPA the Co-Founder of LiveCA and Co-Host of AutomationTown 

    Hosts: Zachary Call and Scott Scarano

    Sponsor: Dark Horse CPAs - abetterway.cpa

    Listen in as we pick Chad’s brain, as there's no shortage of great information up there. How to be intentional and naturally solve problems. Manage a team of over 100ppl.  Chad lives in an RV w/ his wife and two kids, down by the river.  + what the hell is NO-CODE!?

    3 Chad shares how he co-founded LiveCA with Josh Zweig back in 2013.

    ***Shoutout Josh Zweig, Xero, Will Lopez, and Freshbooks***

    5 Tech & Tax: Chad is the Tech as Josh is the Tax

    ***Shoutout Johnny McEvoy, Bill Kimball, Herschel Co., Peter Wen, Ryan Lazanis, and Jason Staats***

    9 How Xero has been a bridge that connected all of us in this community.

    ***Shoutout Maria Phillips, Slack, Dave MacPherson, Donut app***

    13 Chad opens up about how the firm evolves as they add more team members 

    ***Shoutout Baalkis Hassan, Tyler Bradley***

    19 How a 6-week trip turned into 4-years(and counting) on the road

    ***Shoutout Scout’s Barbershop, Kenji Kuramoto***

    23 Try traveling with your toilet, it’s insane! It’s so good!

    ***Shoutout outschool.com***

    29 Hiring process: Giving people a chance to test us out is more important than us testing them out

    ***Shoutout Teach:able, Videoask by Typeform, Trakstar, CloudAccountingJobs.com, Belay***

    38 Zachary asks Chad if they give potential clients the “try before you buy” experience

    ***Shoutout Bubble, Emily Spanik***

    44 NO-CODE and how Chad and Co were able to create their own tools 

    ***Shoutout Twilio, Make (formerly Integromat), Stripe, Realize, Alex Oxford and TaxValet***

    52 Changing the way we think about employee compensation

    53 Being in the New Mexico Desert in an RV... we're getting a Breaking Bad vibe

    ***Shoutout Ignition, Relay, Fiverr***

    1 hr 5 min
  • #NiksTips on PTO

    PTO stands for Paid Time Off

    this is #NiksTips Bonus, Scott Scarano & Nikole Mackenzie take on choice topics (that start with the letter P) as it relates to running their professional accounting firms.  Today's topic is PTO, where we discuss PTO and policies at our accounting firm.

    I don't know if it's cheating that we're doing an acronym for today's topic, just using the letter P as the P-word, but I guess now we're opening up the door to P-acronyms...

    We both have Unlimited PTO at our accounting firms.  What's your PTO policy?

    But, for now, let's scope back out, Why this topic? Why PTO?

    Niks selected this topic today because recently she's been getting back into doing client work and she hasn't done client work in a long time. And so she's starting to feel the burn of what the team feels when they take any time off.  Niks went on vacation for just one day and started to get text messages from clients and realized, "oh gosh, we don't have a system for when someone takes time off, I'm sure that when our team goes on vacation, they're getting text messages from clients, we're always so embedded in our client's business, and there's always payroll that needs to be run and invoicing and cashflow issues, how hard it must be for everyone to go on vacation or checkout. It's really challenging." 

    So how do we structure a healthy PTO policy for our teams that doesn't disrupt the day-to-day needs and challenges of the business? What technology do we use? What are our processes so that we can actually allow our team to go on vacation, so we have this unlimited PTO policy, and we're trying to encourage people to go on vacation, but they're not going on vacation... how do we solve this?

    29 min

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Accounting High is the premier practice management podcast for tax and accounting firm owners. Join us for conversations about running a modern accounting practice in the cloud. We are the next…