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Join us as we sit Across the Counter from John Burke, the New York Times bestselling author of "Imagine Heaven.”

In this ATC Episode:


• John embarked on a 35-year exploration into over a thousand near-death experiences (NDEs). During our conversation, he reveals the compelling commonalities he found between these NDEs and biblical teachings, discussing the fears he faced about potential backlash and how he overcame them to publish his transformative book.

• Explore the fascinating intersection of near-death experiences and scientific skepticism with us. We delve into the debate around the adequacy of scientific theories that attempt to explain away NDEs. Highlighting key cases like Pam Reynolds', where verifiable observations were made despite no recorded brain activity, we discuss the implications of such experiences on our understanding of the afterlife and the enduring nature of the soul. These discussions are not just academic; they offer significant insights into the profound spiritual dimensions that these experiences suggest.

• What if our three-dimensional experience is just a shadow of a greater reality? In this episode, we dive into the profound implications of near-death experiences on our perceptions of life, death, and spirituality. We explore themes of unconditional love, life reviews, and the absence of judgment, sharing diverse testimonials from people of various religious backgrounds. 

• Hear about encounters that transcend cultural and religious barriers, like a woman from Tehran who met a being of light she identified as Jesus. Through these compelling stories, we reflect on the inclusive nature of God's love and the transformative power of these experiences, offering a richer understanding of faith and spirituality.

Connect with John:

Instagram: @johnburkeofficial

Buy His New Book:

Imagine the God of Heaven: Near-Death Experiences, God’s Revelation, and the Love You’ve Always Wanted https://a.co/d/eRnqPpyH

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Join us as we sit Across the Counter from YWAMer and content creator John Mark Dyer.

In this ATC Episode:



• Can you imagine leaving behind a stable corporate career to follow a series of vivid dreams? That's exactly what John Mark Dyer did, leading him to dedicate over a decade to Youth With A Mission (YWAM). Through captivating stories, John Mark shares how YWAM's Discipleship Training School in Hawaii transformed his life and empowered countless young people to respond to God's call with immediacy and enthusiasm. This episode unpacks not just his journey, but the mission and vision of YWAM in breaking down traditional barriers to missionary work.

• Discover how understanding and embracing God's love can shift one's spiritual journey from rigid rule-following to a profound personal connection with the divine. We explore the adventures and risks of cross-cultural missions, the role of media in spreading theological insights, and the importance of short-term missions as stepping stones to long-term commitment. 

• John Mark addresses common concerns about young missionaries making mistakes and highlights how faith can thrive amidst taking risks and stepping out in trust.

 • Hear about how we can create "little gardens of Eden" through our actions and trust in God's direction, even amidst imperfections.

This episode promises to be an enriching exploration of faith, transformation, and the power of community.


Connect with John Mark:

Instagram: @johnmarkdyer 

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Tim Whitaker from the New Evangelicals round 2.

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Join us as we sit Across the Counter from documentary filmmaker Sharon Roggio.

In this ATC Episode:


• Growing up as a queer individual in an evangelical family in South Philadelphia, Sharon Roggio, also known as Rocky, faced unique and challenging experiences. This episode uncovers her journey, from the origin of her nickname to navigating life as a lesbian with a pastor father.

• Through her award-winning documentary, Rocky reveals a possible  mistranslation in the Bible concerning the word "homosexual," aiming to reshape the dialogue around LGBTQIA+ inclusion in Christianity. We explore her relationship with her father and the broader implications of biblical misinterpretations.

• We dig deep into the ancient contexts of biblical texts, questioning long-held interpretations of marriage, sexuality, and gender. The conversation spotlights the significance of eunuchs and highlights how "clobber passages" have been historically used to suppress marginalized groups.

Connect with Sharon:

Instagram: @rockyroggio

Website: https://www.1946themovie.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYBTiDjGUUvJGCh7awW_niHtxMo_dLlpTT2F83iANM6n_0LgAICf5FmXas_aem_0hXCGBro3X0q8_RlSHOFhw

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Join us as we sit Across the Counter from Christian artist Chris Renzema.

In this ATC Episode:


• Authenticity takes center stage as we navigate the complex landscape of the Christian music industry. Reflecting on personal experiences, we discuss the challenges of staying true to one’s unique voice amid a facade that often stifles genuine expression.

• Through heartfelt anecdotes, we explore the distinction between creating art for mass consumption and art that resonates deeply with individuals. Live shows, we discover, are a testament to the power of authenticity, proving that genuine expression can touch hearts even when it defies mainstream norms.

• As we delve deeper, the conversation shifts to the broader challenges of artistic expression and commercial success. We address the pressures of balancing personal fulfillment with the demand for commercial viability, emphasizing the importance of redefining success to foster more authentic creations. From stand-up comedy to music production, and even contemplating book writing, we share our personal definitions of success—rooted in being proud of our work and truthful in our artistic journeys.

Tune in for a rich episode filled with insights, inspiration, and a sincere exploration of what it means to be an artist in today's world.


Connect with Chris:

Instagram: @chrisrenzema

Website: https://chrisrenzema.os.fan/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAabGzbzj9H9dCfcFJ0mEiFwe3HRENFe-cq5JNq0l_1TQgYKhSae2w0zU1AU_aem_hySjfe0iN0edOSs5uZRgUg

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Join us as we sit Across the Counter from author, scholar, and podcaster Chad Bird.

In this ATC Episode:


• Have you ever wondered how life's unexpected turns can lead to profound personal transformation? Join us as we chat with Chad Bird, a Scholar in Residence at 1517, who shares his remarkable journey from seminary professor to truck driver in the Texas oil fields. Chad's story is a testament to resilience and faith, highlighting how he found renewed purpose in producing enlightening content centered on the Bible. His current work with 1517 is more than just a job; it’s a calling that aligns with his God-given mission.

• In a deeply moving segment, we reflect on the heartbreaking experience of losing a young loved one through the eyes of a grieving parent. The story of Luke, whose life was abruptly cut short, serves as a powerful reminder of the necessity to reimagine the future. Anchoring our discussion in the Christian belief of eternal life, we draw inspiration from C.S. Lewis's poignant metaphor of life as merely the front porch to our eternal home. The hope of a future reunion provides solace, urging us to live lives of service and faithfulness despite the pain.

• Lastly, we explore the often challenging yet spiritually enriching journey of enduring hardships as part of the Christian faith. Drawing parallels to disciplined practices like biohacking, Chad explains how carrying one's cross leads to spiritual growth and transformation. We delve into the battle between flesh and spirit, the struggle of forgiveness, and recognizing our inner conflicts. Chad also gives us a sneak peek into his upcoming book, "Hitchhiking with Prophets: A Ride Through the Salvation Story of the Old Testament," which promises a creative and engaging journey through the Old Testament.

Don’t miss this episode filled with heartfelt stories, spiritual insights, and a celebration of faith and resilience.


Connect with Chad:

Instagram: @chadlbird


Buy his book here: 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1956658866?cspi=6e04cf7c325a2de647e2d631e5d11a338feffb2bc46935921a866ef27a8c0a02adfa69bf05f99503ec058e07a486c0d7820dec0621fb8e687c611d0a95f29102&ref=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_bks_apin_dp_RZRDJ8GFPDEKF0QP9ZF3&ref_=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_bks_apin_dp_RZRDJ8GFPDEKF0QP9ZF3&social_share=cm_sw_r_cso_cp_bks_apin_dp_RZRDJ8GFPDEKF0QP9ZF3&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaaXUXSaeNFjfnFtea_-3a1cEvyaNtu2eJABKL5lNr84bThfuh937zGws64_aem_At0M2T45oEPUR2AsToQG_w

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Join us for round 2 with PEABOD!

In this ATC Episode: 


• What if recognizing God's presence in your everyday life could change everything? Join us as we sit down with the Christian artist PEABOD, also known as Isaac, who opens up about his journey in the music industry and his latest projects, including the catchy single "Paradise" featured in a SoFi commercial. 

• Isaac gets real about the ups and downs of being an independent artist, sharing both the creative freedoms and the overwhelming responsibilities that come with it. We also dive into pressing industry issues like the Live Nation lawsuit and the evolving policies at Spotify, and how these changes are impacting artists today.

• Ever wondered how God's sovereignty plays out in the minutiae of our daily lives? This episode takes a thought-provoking turn as we discuss the profound concept of God's providence, sparked by a powerful sermon. Isaac and I reflect on how recognizing God's hand in everything—from simple choices to significant life events—can transform our perspective. We tackle the pressures of modern hustle culture and the comforting realization that, despite our ceaseless efforts, divine provision ultimately supports us.

• If you've ever found joy in life's simple pleasures, you'll resonate with our final segment. From the satisfaction of homeownership to the unexpected delight of growing grass and mastering pickleball, this chapter celebrates the everyday moments that bring contentment. Isaac shares his personal journey of faith, career transitions, and the ongoing process of rediscovering trust in God's provision, even in the unpredictable world of an independent music career.

Whether you’re a fan of Christian music, a seeker of spiritual insights, or someone who appreciates the simple joys of life, this episode has something for you.

Connect with PEABOD:

Instagram: @peabodraps

Website: https://www.peabodraps.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAabxjz_ZrDKO-yvnyFsHYEeGKE-jyrPxXNGmfgNZprGwb5IuXqsJtYBy6TI_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw

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Join us for round 2 with Elias Dummer!

In this ATC Episode:

• We kick off our conversation by diving into Elias’ transition from The City Harmonic to his solo career, including the touching inspiration behind his new acoustic rendition of "Manifesto."

•  Elias opens up about the unique challenges of bridging his past and present musical identities, sharing some humorous stories about performing for family. You'll also get an insider’s take on the dynamics of performing in intimate settings and the delicate balance between personal and performer personas.

• Shifting gears, the discussion moves to deeper waters as we explore the holistic integration of brain, body, and soul—a paradigm shift that has far-reaching implications for our understanding of ecology, culture, and spirituality. Elias and I tackle the complexities of human nature, the dance between emotion and rationality in our decision-making, and the necessity of embodying compassion, love, and kindness in our daily lives.

• The conversation delves into the uncertainties surrounding the afterlife and underscores the importance of maintaining a balance between faith and doubt in our spiritual lives.

•  Did Elias change Nicolas Cage’s Wikipedia page a few too many times?


Connect with Elias:

Instagram: @eliasdummer

Website: https://eliasdummer.com/links/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZF2YTZ_SyKOiHW6OniUYBXFMI_z2rmmNvB95z92Kg25bD1jxidrjaGZ2c_aem_ASeAI_YNj0xDo_aGGlHCNXHJ8DQNXqqbVjp3RRhEj0mBa6UGNYQvY2ieUjdq4VEfWsLoPfLtrkdxh-w9wKDqHp9r

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Join us as we sit Across the Counter from Author, Speaker, and National Next Gen Director for NAMB Shane Pruitt.

In this ATC Episode:


• What does it mean to reintroduce the real Jesus to a generation navigating a whirlwind of cultural shifts? Join us as we sit down with Shane Pruitt, the National Next Gen Director for NAMM, who shares his impactful journey of writing "Revival Generation," a Bible study resonating deeply within student and college ministries across the nation. Shane opens up about his family's heart-wrenching loss of their 10-year-old son, Titus, and how they're finding strength and grace through their faith. His raw honesty and profound insights offer a heartfelt look into spiritual resilience and the healing power of faith.

• Our conversation with Shane delves into the evolving perceptions of Jesus and the Bible among today’s youth. It's fascinating to hear how a consistent message over two decades suddenly feels more radical to this generation. We explore the societal trend of embracing Jesus but sidelining the Bible, and the dangers of crafting a culturally influenced image of Jesus.

• Shane emphasizes the necessity for churches to reengage in critical cultural conversations with scriptural truth, especially on topics like sexuality and gender, to present an unfiltered, authentic Jesus to the world.

• Shane highlights the need to balance truth with love, ensuring a compassionate yet firm approach to biblical teachings. We also touch upon the delicate dance between understanding and living out God's Word through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This episode is a call to embrace humility, seek truth together, and foster unity within our diverse faith communities, making it a must-listen for anyone invested in the spiritual growth of the next generation.


Connect with Shane:

Instagram: @shane_pruitt78

Website: https://shanepruitt.net


Beliefs espoused by the guests of ATC are not necessarily the beliefs and convictions of ATC. 

That said the intent of our podcast is to listen, remain curious and never fear failure in the discovery life giving truth. Many people we ardently disagree with have been our greatest teachers.

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WE HAVE RELEASED 50 EPISODES!!!

In this ATC 50th episode special:

• What if the Christian life isn't about doing more or trying harder, but simply about basking in the gift of grace? Join us for our milestone 50th episode of Across the Counter as we celebrate with a heartfelt conversation featuring Tullian Tchividjian.

• Tullian returns to discuss his transformative book, "Carnage and Grace," offering a raw and unfiltered look into his life's darkest moments and the overwhelming grace that followed.

• Grant’s wife Raygan makes a special appearance.

• In this episode, we challenge the notion of presenting a sanitized version of life within the Christian community. Together, we explore how embracing our imperfections can foster a more genuine and supportive environment. Tullian shares the therapeutic process behind writing his book and the importance of keeping it real, while we contrast the nurturing grace-filled atmosphere of a supportive family with the often demanding expectations of the broader Christian community.

Don't miss this powerful discussion about authenticity, grace, and creating spaces where realness is celebrated and people feel truly supported!


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Buy his book here!

https://www.amazon.com/Carnage-Grace-Confessions-Adulterous-Heart/dp/1632966387/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15CQXF0G4V6HQ&keywords=tullian+tchividjian+books&qid=1706444604&sprefix=tulli%2Caps%2C228&sr=8-1&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAab0OSSldTkxmB2xSEVINtPy-xgf4xK2UZXG7-1mD2lUYplqof7ZmzWvudM_aem_ASoPQ-_1ZxUunZsGj9c9YyIIpNp179mzeG3zdun0t0Onyx2elV5MTYTkLyWO6G0pTEa7WkJF4AUKwbYuKXCHF2JA

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