Adam Lavendar ,my Permaculture apprentice this season, and I ,discuss my book Earth Is Our Home and his take aways from it, Urban applications of Permaculture, and Permaculture education. Adriana joins us part way through, for a discussion on protein that heads into a piece on how the industrialization of everything is the root of many of the problems we are all faced with in these times. We wrap up with discussing closed loop systems and inclusive community based design solutions.