In this extra episode we have the full interview between Bethan and Steve Chalke. In a wide ranging conversation, Steve gives insight into his motivations for founding the Oasis Trust, the importance he puts in leading a politically active, justice focused Church and the vital role he believes churches can play in helping the vulnerable. Bethan and Steve also go on to discuss inclusive church, its complexities, and the rationale behind the way Oasis Waterloo ‘does church’ with radical inclusion and political action at the centre.