This week on Agencies Drinking Beer, Kevin and Kyle interview Andrew Doyle, senior vice president of m5 Marketing and Communications based here in our hometown of Halifax, Nova Scotia. He shares his experience building a marketing agency that grew from 9-60 people in 18 months, what it takes to win a big client, and why he believes that agencies need to convince clients to accept the risks that come along with doing great work, not because of it will win awards but it because can actually helps their business. Andrew also talks about the ups and downs of his time as a SaaS entrepreneur.