In this fun and uplifting episode, Joy and Phil Hoover share how a box of cupcakes evolved into a nationally-recognized nonprofit with a staff of 10 and a volunteer team of 150+, the importance of loving without an agenda, and how they are raising their two girls to be inclusive and, like their parents, "humans who give a shit." Joy spills what helps her stay centered in work and family life, and Phil dishes out what all men need to do to keep their partner happy and satisfied.