AI strategist Sam Zolfagharian returns to explain the metric one top ENR engineering firm, Wade Trim, uses instead of ROI: RONI, the Risk of Not Investing. She argues that asking for AI's return after a year or two is the wrong test, and that firms need different measurements at each stage of maturity. Activity counts at inception, changed workflows at integration, and only at transformation does dollar ROI make sense. Also covered: agent adoption at scale, token costs against employee effort, and why building a data lake will not fix your data problem.

Maarten Vroegindeweij, founder of the OpenAEC Foundation, makes the case that AI will not kill open source AEC software but help it win.

Aarni talked with Paul Indinger about the challenges of construction sales and how AI solutions like Building Radar can make a difference.