<p>I talk with my best friend and (yikes!) ex-boyfriend - game designer and musician Jeb Havens - about the way love transforms us and also what a terrible boyfriend I was.</p>

I talk with my best friend and (yikes!) ex-boyfriend - game designer and musician Jeb Havens - about the way love transforms us and also what a terrible boyfriend I was.

AEWCH 161: JEB HAVENS or LOVE IN FRIENDSHIP, LOVE IN RELATIONSHIP

Against Everyone with Conner Habib is a podcast of deep but accessible and fun explorations of art, spirituality, philosophy, activism, and culture. This is big talk in a friendly tone with some of. the most compelling people of our time.

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