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AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American's Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? with Terry and Roy

Interesting article this week Why Older People Managed to Stay Happier Through the Pandemic. New surveys over the last year show that the ability to cope improves with age. by Benedict Carey and published in the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/12/health/covid-pandemic-happiness-age.html

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Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (00:15):

Hello and welcome to another episode of educational. This is Roy. This is I'm trying some new intro music there. So look for a little feedback if that's good or not. We'll see. Uh, anyway, we are going to bring a short episode, basically some, just a general what's going on in the news. Some articles that we had read earlier today, and, um, you want to start off, you want me to go right ahead? Okay. Well, what got my attention was there was a feed in my, um, LinkedIn and the headline was this conventional with the conventional wisdom that your happiness tends to increase as you get older has not changed much during the pandemic. Researchers have found even in April one of the darkest months. And this was, uh, April, 2020, one of the darkest months. Younger people were doing far worse emotionally than older people. And it, uh, basically this was pulled out of an article in the New York times by Benedict Carey.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (01:17):

And we will include the link in the show notes, but it's why older people managed to stay happier through the pandemic. And the article just goes on to say that, um, you know, in the beginning there was a lot of age-ism because it tended to, uh, COVID tended to attack older people first, and they got much sicker, much quicker and worse, but as this drug, the pandemic drug on some things came out, basically that, uh, people over 50 scored consistently higher and more positive on a wide variety of emotions. This was a study that looked at a thousand adults ages, 18 to 76, uh, across the entire country. And one point was made that, um, part of this could be the, to the fact that older people know and accept who they are and they are not, um, and not what other people think that they are supposed to become, which I thought that was a very powerful statement. You know, we talk about that a lot. Just, uh, you know, being, just being honest with ourselves, knowing who we are in a lot of situations, but also just being present, being present in the moment to realize, you know, what's going on, what we need to do to make it to the end of this.

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (02:41):

I, I th I mean, experience has a lot to do with that as well. You know, they're, they're thinking more about the workplace. I mean, everything is up in the air for everybody, but they're thinking more about the workplace, how they're going to feed their families. They've got little kids, they've got all of these other things happening around them. And, um, you know, they haven't had the experience to know that, you know, it's, it's, it's going to be okay, even though we all don't know it's going to be okay, you know, at some point or not another, um, that has a lot to do with it, I think.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (03:22):

Yeah, no, you're right. The, the, I'm not, I don't think it was the article, but in the comments that came around the article, I did notice that, you know, a lot of people were saying, well, the, you know, some of us older people that have lived through, you know, the financial crisis, good graveyard, remember back, you know, we've lived through an energy crisis. We lived through the, uh, you know, the oil embargoes. We lived through the, uh, you know, the oil booms and busts of course, around here. So, um, I guess that we take things a little easier and we know that we're going to make it through to the other end generally. So the, um, another thing that the, the, there were a lot of comments that follow, but some things that were said were, you know, putting aside stereotypes, it's all about skills and attitude and, uh, grace, uh, excuse me, and acceptance and gratitude. And this one comment, or was just saying that older people tend to practice that, um, acceptance and gratitude a lot better. So I, again, some things that we've talked about, uh, you know, even in our personal walks and things like that, just, you know, how thankful we are to live in such an awesome place that we do and get to experience the, uh, just the wildlife in our surroundings every day.

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (04:40):

Yeah. Nature is a huge part of our life. And yeah, I mean, that has just meant the world to be able to, to experience that and see the deer in the backyard and the ducks, and then all of them fighting over the food back there.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (04:56):

Yeah. Well, and that's, uh, you know, I think that us, especially, you know, we've talked a lot about the survivor's guilt that we seem to have flourished during this time it's slowed us way down and made us focus on the important things each other, you know, our life and doing things together. But then also, um, you know, I think it's, I think that we both tend to, you know, try to find those good things to look out there even, uh, I would love to be better. I know that, you know, we've had some equipment trouble and I've had a couple spells trying to get that thing up and working. I get that. So, uh, you know, in those times like that, that are trying is to really stop and think about, you know, what are all the great things that have gone so well today and you know, where all the grateful things, you know, in our life that we live in a beautiful place, we have shelter running, water, food to eat. You know, there are so many things around us to be thankful for all the time.

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (05:54):

Right. We don't need all the extra stuff. And then we've, hadn't been there, done that over it. Yeah.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (05:59):

And we have to also, I want to quantify that with saying that we've been fortunate. We haven't been touched by the virus. We haven't been sick that we know of. Nobody that we surround ourselves has been, uh, sick to the point of hospitalization. And I think maybe, um, I've, you know, I had a friend, a good friend from high school that we don't see each other a lot anymore, but he, I did see that he had a bad time and was in the hospital. And I think that you actually had somebody that passed that she went to high school with. So, but, but not that close, you know, not our close circle of friends or family that we have right now. So we have to always say that since we weren't touched by it, it's easy to, to recognize all these positives, if we had been touched by it, it, you know, it may be a different story for sure.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (06:52):

Uh, so anyway, a couple more things, another comment, or wrote that, uh, she works with companies that are in transition and she said that older workers always tend to cope better than the younger ones in that situation as well. Uh, another, um, Oh, this was another good point. It said that older people tend to work better at home at home. And so people being sent home, that's another reason why there's been a better outcome, but again, what, what I will say to that is that, um, maybe it's the distraction. I don't know, you know, if, if we work from home and we enjoy it, uh, you know, we like to be able to start our day with a little walk. Sometimes we can sneak one in at lunch and, you know, we always, you know, we're, most of the time we're there for our meal times, we have very set schedules, but, you know, you got to think about it. We thrive at home because of that stuff. But now if we had kids and you had kids at home that were running around that were too young for school, or because of the pandemic that you were homeschooling them now, you know, I can only imagine that it would be a huge, a bigger struggle for younger people in that position to, to work from home and be proud.

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (08:10):

Oh, yes. It's so many kudos to all those parents with younger kids with just with kids in school in general. Um, I can't even imagine how I would have been able to do that. I just, just thinking about it no way. Yeah. And I taught, I taught preschool and, and subbed for all ages and it was, uh, without the pandemic, Micah. Shh. I can't even, I just can't even imagine trying to do the virtual school online. I mean, just no idea. Yeah.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (08:45):

Well, and you know, how the connectivity and technology issues that we have even just producing this, you know, 30 minutes a week or what we, whatever we do. And if you were trying to do this for two or three kids every day, I can almost imagine that, you know, you just started full-time tech support, just trying to get everything up and running in the more

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (09:06):

Yeah. You become, you have to become technological even if, whether or not it's your forte. It is now.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (09:12):

Yeah. And one more thing I wanted to say on this as there was an article that came out, uh, or this was a S uh, a comment on the original article said that she had just seen a separate article and I'm sorry, I can't reference it. But, um, I did want to quote it and hopefully she was being truthful. It said that, um, it showed that the 55 plus group are the second fastest to adopt to digital and technological changes behind the 18 to 25 year old group. And the slowest, uh, group to adapt are the 30 to 45 year olds, which I was, uh, I was very surprised to hear that.

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (09:53):

Very surprised to hear that. I mean, I know my, you know, I'm texting and it takes both of my hands. I, you know, and I am slow. I have to spell everything out. I don't, I don't use many acronyms. I don't know what they all mean. I mean, it takes me a while, you know, just getting on a zoom call. Oh yeah. Oh, wait video on.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (10:17):

Yeah. I was just very surprised at that. I know, you know, our generation was kind of right on that cutting edge. Um, you know, it, when I went to college, the first go around, I always say, that's why, why I never made it through because of having to use a typewriter, you know, when you have to use a typewriter and you mess up and you have to start all over, if you're 10 pages into something it's terrible and, you know, always give, uh, I'm not sure who bill Gates or Steve jobs, but I give them credit for me being able to go back to school and finish my degree because of the word processor. I mean, I can blow words out, get them on a page and then go back and rearrange them. He doing spell check, you know, all of those tools were invaluable to me.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (11:07):

And so I think, you know, our generation was right on that, uh, dividing line. The digital dividing line is like, if you were interested in it and wanted to pick up on it, you know, we dove in and picked up on it, but there were some people that were still able to go, uh, you know, for long portions through their career and still not even have to pick up email. I mean, I know people that, uh, they avoided email spreadsheets, other documents, electronic documents, you know, well into the two thousands, just because it wasn't a ness, a necessity. And then of course it kinda got forced on them after a certain point. But, um, I would have expected that, that 30 to 45 since they grew up with this stuff that I would have, they probably would have been quick on the uptake.

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (11:56):

Yeah. I think I would think that it had a lot to do with the social, the social socialization in the workplace, you know, because if, if you do have little kids and you're going, you're going to work full time. You know, some people use that, that time, you know, walking down to the water cooler or go into the restroom or what go into lunch, down to the lunch room as a, as a time to make friends and, um, you know, socialize with their coworkers. And, uh, I think that may have a little bit to do with it as well.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (12:35):

Okay. All right. Did you want to talk about the, uh,

Terry - AGEUcational - AGEing Matters (12:39):

No. Well, I was just going to TA talk about the journal of American medical association. They, they also reinforced this idea that, um, the older, the older ages were able to, um, cope much better as well. I mean, this all has come out, you know, within the last month or so about all the, um, the, um, the articles are that the people that they surveyed, um, there were, you know, a thousand adults, 18 to 76 throughout the United States. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm going back to that other one. Um, yeah, the, um, journal of American medical association, they, uh, surveyed, you know, from 700 to 900 participants and broke them down into ages of 18 to 24, uh, 25 to 44 and, um, uh, 45 to 64 and the 18 to 24, this, the 18 to 24, they had a 49. They said that 49% of them, um, reported anxiety issues, 52% depressive disorders and 46% trauma or stress-related disorders. Whereas on the opposite end of the spectrum, the 65 plus 6% anxiety, 6% depressive disorder and 9%, um, TSR disorder and 25 to 44 year olds, 35% anxiety, 33% depressive and 36% TSR D so they just re they were reinforcing, you know, it's the social aspect as well as the technological. Um, yeah.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (14:44):

Yeah. And the, um, you know, it's interesting to you, I guess, to think about all these different things, you know, maybe it's the positions that we're in that, well, you know, first off we don't have a family to worry about. It's just, you know, the two of us, so we will. Yeah. And the dogs, so we'll manage to survive. If we have to go back to the Creek and, you know, fish for dinner, we'll, we'll be all right. But, but you know, uh, a lot of these guys, especially if they're in a food service, hospitality, those industries that were hit hard, and then now they've got a family, you know, it's not just them anymore, maybe spouse, kids. So, you know, I think they have a lot more on their plates maybe to worry about. I don't know. I think it's just, it's very interesting because, uh, you know, as we age, the one thing that becomes harder for us to tolerate is, uh, change.

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (15:40):

And so it's just odd that a couple of these studies have come out just saying that, you know, some of the older or handling the change and the disruption much better. So we just thought it was worth, um, worth doing a little mini episode just to get this out there and let everybody know. We'd love to hear our, uh, listeners comments. If you, you know, kind of, you can leave us your age and what, what, how you have felt, has it been, has this been disruptive, upsetting, do you feel like you've been calm and thriving through all of this kind of, what is your, um, what is the state of your emotion right now? Yeah, that's great. Yep. All right. Well, unless you have anything else, we'll close this out. I'm going to try to send us off with some music. All right. So, uh, again, you can find us@educational.com. We are on all the major social media platforms, as well as, uh, the podcast platforms, iTunes, Stitcher, Google, Spotify. If we're not on one that you listened to, please reach out. We'd love to, uh, add it on. And also we will put a video of this up when, uh, when the episode goes live. So until next time, take care of yourself,

Roy -  AGEUcational - AGEing Matters: Research Shows Older American’s Coping Better During the Pandemic. Are you surprised? (16:56):

Take care of your family. Thanks for listening.

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