Pulled from the Hiring Excellence vault — Johnny's conversation with Pavan Kumar, recorded nine months before agentic AI became the dominant talking point in TA. At the time, Pavan was leading global talent acquisition at Eightfold, rolling out their AI Recruiter to 600+ candidates across 35 roles. The argument that only got more relevant: interviewing is more automatable than scheduling, top-talent sourcing still belongs to humans, and it all falls apart without human-in-the-loop guardrails. Worth a listen if you're piloting agentic AI now.