Sabrina C E Bruce and Karl A L Smith talk with Adrian Payne a project professional from the 1980's to to present day. Author of Agile Beyond IT, Adrian looks into case studies of agile use and points out the errors of many organisations that agile methods are not project management. The book considers what does agility look like in various domains. Great conversation about the use of agile methods and other methods at the same time.

LinkedIn: Adrian Payne https://www.linkedin.com/in/adepayne/

Amazon: Adrian Payne https://www.amazon.com/Adrian-Pyne/e/B09XMXQ8NF/

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