Sean is back from his busiest RSA conference yet, and is thinking about how to transfer the security-industry knowledge in his head to the rest of the team at Miscreants. Meanwhile Andrew is rebuilding MetaMonster, testing the Vercel AI SDK, and thinking about how architecture and user experiences are going to change in the age of AI. 

Links:

• Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins
• Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/
• MetaMonster: https://metamonster.ai/
• Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsun
• Miscreants: http://miscreants.com/
• Margins: http://margins.so/
• Sean's website: https://seanqsun.com/

For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.

Transcript:
00:01.39

Sean

Yo.

00:02.84

Andrew

Hello, hello.

00:04.32

Sean

How you doing?

00:05.22

Andrew

Wait, i don't I don't know if I like that.

00:07.38

Sean

You want redo it?

00:07.49

Andrew

Let's start. Let's redo it.

00:08.52

Sean

You know we have to we have to record an intro at some point today?

00:11.33

Andrew

Oh, fuck.

00:12.31

Sean

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:13.76

Andrew

Wait,

00:13.85

Sean

Our editor is getting kind of... I'm pissing him off, I swear, and this point.

00:16.89

Andrew

wait why does he want an intro? I feel like lots of people don't have intros.

00:20.07

Sean

He just, it like, okay, so so for those of you who are following us, we finally got a YouTube channel and started posting things. Our editor's handling all of it and, like, making thumbnails and all this stuff, and it's, like, growing.

00:31.83

Andrew

Latest episode has 54 views.

00:32.10

Sean

Yeah. I know, 56 on my end.

00:37.06

Andrew

Oh, why does it say 54 on mine?

00:37.32

Sean

Two of them might have just been me because I refreshed. don't know. Anyway, the guy's like, like he's he listened to the Zencaster produced one, like the audio only, and he's like, can I put an intro on this, please?

00:46.74

Andrew

Mm-hmm.

00:52.07

Sean

Or can I put like music to the start of it? just wants to practice.

00:54.99

Andrew

It doesn't like the hard, cold open, just like just straight into you and me talking about absolute and utter bullshit.

00:57.01

Sean

Yeah.

00:59.43

Sean

Yeah.

01:04.07

Sean

Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much.

01:05.68

Andrew

Fair.

01:07.97

Sean

Anyway, he sent me like an AI one.

01:06.48

Andrew

Fair.

01:09.25

Sean

It was okay, but and i I mean, I feel like if we're going to do an intro, we might as well record it So now the ball's in our court.

01:15.92

Andrew

We can try it, but I do feel like a lot of the catch-up podcasts that I have started listening to don't do intros. And so I'm not i'm not totally convinced I want an audio intro.

01:22.58

Sean

That's right.

01:25.20

Sean

I'm fine either. I'm fine either way. Happy to tell him that we're not doing one.

01:29.03

Andrew

I mean, to be fair, he is getting more views than we are, so maybe we should shut up and listen to the expert.

01:30.12

Sean

Yeah.

01:34.18

Sean

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I felt about it. Yeah, he also was, was like, yeah, Andrew and our goal is like 300 subscribers. 500 would be like incredible, you know?

01:47.52

Sean

Like that's, but we're good.

01:49.12

Andrew

500, and I'm pretty sure we're superstars. Like, yeah.

01:51.95

Sean

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 500 fills up a room. i

01:57.15

Andrew

It's amazing. It fills up a big-ass room.

01:59.24

Sean

I can't invite, I can't throw a party and invite 500 people to it.

02:02.03

Andrew

I can't name 500 people.

02:04.96

Sean

Me neither. Yeah, I don't think most people can actually. um That's a fun, that's like a fun Mr. Beast type video.

02:14.81

Sean

It's like trying to

02:14.79

Andrew

I saw in one of the recent episodes of Jet Lag, it was so bad.

02:15.53

Sean

ah

02:20.13

Andrew

They they were trying to name, like, i think it was, like, name, like, 50 women. or a hundred women or something like that.

02:27.28

Sean

jeez.

02:28.63

Andrew

And they couldn't do it. And it was so bad.

02:30.98

Sean

Oh, man.

02:30.99

Andrew

They were like, this is, they were like, this will be so easy. Like we're going to do this in 10 minutes flat. And then they were like, Oh no, why is this so hard?

02:41.83

Sean

like Like real people or just names?

02:43.57

Andrew

Real women. Yeah. Yeah. It had to be, it had to be a hundred actual women or something like that.

02:44.95

Sean

of I don't know. I don't know more than 30 women in general.

02:47.93

Andrew

Or that's,

02:50.93

Sean

That's not true.

02:51.42

Andrew

can't be true i think it's one of those things not to make excuses but i feel like it's one of those things where it like if there was no pressure you could do it easily but because there's like the time pressure your brain just goes blank

02:52.40

Sean

Yeah.

03:02.82

Sean

Yeah. Fair. Fair. I mean, you're on you're in camera. Who knows? I don't know. Maybe they suck in real life. Hard to say.

03:10.59

Andrew

i hope not because i fucking love jet lag

03:11.51

Sean

Great games. Yeah. Yeah. You watched the ...