AI DevOps Podcast

This week on the podcast, Jeffrey is joined by none other than Jason Beres! Jason is the Sr. Vice President for Developer Tools at Infragistics; the world leader in user interface development tools and experts in User-Centered Design. As a senior software executive, Jason has over 25 years of experience in high-tech with a focus on customer and user experience, and has been with Infragistics for the last 17 of those years.

DevOps for shipping code as opposed to shipping applications

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Infragistics

Jason Beres' LinkedIn

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 154: "Dean Guida on the Future of .NET Components"

GitHub Actions

Slingshot

Indigo.Design | Infragistics

App Builder | Infragistics

Gherkin

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

This week on the podcast, Jeffrey is joined by none other than Jason Beres! Jason is the Sr. Vice President for Developer Tools at Infragistics; the world leader in user interface development tools and experts in User-Centered Design. As a senior software executive, Jason has over 25 years of experience in high-tech with a focus on customer and user experience, and has been with Infragistics for the last 17 of those years.

DevOps for shipping code as opposed to shipping applications

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Infragistics

Jason Beres' LinkedIn

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 154: "Dean Guida on the Future of .NET Components"

GitHub Actions

Slingshot

Indigo.Design | Infragistics

App Builder | Infragistics

Gherkin

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Joining Jeffrey this week is the CEO and founder of Infragistics, Dean Guida! Infragistics is the world leader in user interface development tools and experts in User-Centered Design; empowering you to build and style immersive user experiences and rich data visualization in line with business applications across all platforms.

Dean Guida shares his insights on the future of .NET components; lessons he has learned having run a software company for over 30 years; his top recommendations when it comes to managing software teams, DevOps toolchains, preparing for the release of .NET 6, server-side vs. Web Assembly, what .NET developers should be doing today for full system testing, and more! He also gives advice to aspiring entrepreneurial software engineers, an overview of Infragistics' tools, and what to be looking out for as a software developer today.

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:24] Jeffrey is looking to hire an apprentice! If you, or anyone you know, loves to code and wants to pursue software engineering, apply today!

[2:13] Be sure to check out the new video podcast, Architect Tips.

[2:17] About today's episode with Dean Guida.

[2:25] Jeffrey welcomes Dean to the show.

[2:33] What got Dean into software development, the journey of his career, and how he came to create his company, Infragistics.

[5:01] How many engineers do they have on staff at Infragistics?

[5:09] Dean's insights on managing software teams.

[6:08] Dean's perspective on cutting the scope vs. shifting the date.

[7:25] Dean's DevOps toolchain of choice.

[8:25] Dean's opinion on the adoption of GitHub Actions, Azure Pipelines, and Team City.

[9:28] Dean's vision for the .NET 6 release and his team's strategy regarding it.

[12:57] Dean's recommended path for the teams where developers are asked to lay things out and do not have a designer.

[14:00] Do most developers just need applications that are completely unique or should they be attaching themselves to certain UI framework and worrying about customization less?

[15:58] Why Blazor is going to work so much better with .NET 6 than it has with .NET 5?

[16:30] Dean's take on server-side and Web Assembly.

[17:22] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[17:53] What would it take for web applications developers to make Blazor their framework of choice?

[19:22] What should .NET developers be doing today for full system testing when they need to go top-down, through the user interface?

[22:00] Dean's vision for the intersection of Digital Workforce and application developers.

[26:12] The tech stack behind Slingshot that puts it ahead of .NET 6 and MAUI.

[27:28] Is MAUI going to have a huge refactoring or are there gaps in MAUI that Slingshot can fill?

[29:08] About the current public preview of Slingshot on Infragistics of components for MAUI.

[29:28] Dean's take on whether developers will begin to create C# smartphone apps on .NET 6 if they haven't before?

[30:40] Having run a software company for over 30 years, Dean shares some of the important lessons he has learned and gives advice to aspiring software engineers.

[33:09] Jeffrey thanks Dean for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Infragistics

Dean Guida's LinkedIn

GitHub Actions

Azure Pipelines

TeamCity

Slingshot

Reveal

Indigo.Design | Infragistics

App Builder | Infragistics

.NET 6

Blazor

Digital Workforce

.NET MAUI

Xamarin

Uno Platform

WinUI

Universal Windows Platform (UWP)

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Joining Jeffrey this week is the CEO and founder of Infragistics, Dean Guida! Infragistics is the world leader in user interface development tools and experts in User-Centered Design; empowering you to build and style immersive user experiences and rich data visualization in line with business applications across all platforms.

Dean Guida shares his insights on the future of .NET components; lessons he has learned having run a software company for over 30 years; his top recommendations when it comes to managing software teams, DevOps toolchains, preparing for the release of .NET 6, server-side vs. Web Assembly, what .NET developers should be doing today for full system testing, and more! He also gives advice to aspiring entrepreneurial software engineers, an overview of Infragistics' tools, and what to be looking out for as a software developer today.

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:24] Jeffrey is looking to hire an apprentice! If you, or anyone you know, loves to code and wants to pursue software engineering, apply today!

[2:13] Be sure to check out the new video podcast, Architect Tips.

[2:17] About today's episode with Dean Guida.

[2:25] Jeffrey welcomes Dean to the show.

[2:33] What got Dean into software development, the journey of his career, and how he came to create his company, Infragistics.

[5:01] How many engineers do they have on staff at Infragistics?

[5:09] Dean's insights on managing software teams.

[6:08] Dean's perspective on cutting the scope vs. shifting the date.

[7:25] Dean's DevOps toolchain of choice.

[8:25] Dean's opinion on the adoption of GitHub Actions, Azure Pipelines, and Team City.

[9:28] Dean's vision for the .NET 6 release and his team's strategy regarding it.

[12:57] Dean's recommended path for the teams where developers are asked to lay things out and do not have a designer.

[14:00] Do most developers just need applications that are completely unique or should they be attaching themselves to certain UI framework and worrying about customization less?

[15:58] Why Blazor is going to work so much better with .NET 6 than it has with .NET 5?

[16:30] Dean's take on server-side and Web Assembly.

[17:22] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[17:53] What would it take for web applications developers to make Blazor their framework of choice?

[19:22] What should .NET developers be doing today for full system testing when they need to go top-down, through the user interface?

[22:00] Dean's vision for the intersection of Digital Workforce and application developers.

[26:12] The tech stack behind Slingshot that puts it ahead of .NET 6 and MAUI.

[27:28] Is MAUI going to have a huge refactoring or are there gaps in MAUI that Slingshot can fill?

[29:08] About the current public preview of Slingshot on Infragistics of components for MAUI.

[29:28] Dean's take on whether developers will begin to create C# smartphone apps on .NET 6 if they haven't before?

[30:40] Having run a software company for over 30 years, Dean shares some of the important lessons he has learned and gives advice to aspiring software engineers.

[33:09] Jeffrey thanks Dean for joining the podcast!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Infragistics

Dean Guida's LinkedIn

GitHub Actions

Azure Pipelines

TeamCity

Slingshot

Reveal

Indigo.Design | Infragistics

App Builder | Infragistics

.NET 6

Blazor

Digital Workforce

.NET MAUI

Xamarin

Uno Platform

WinUI

Universal Windows Platform (UWP)

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

In today's solo episode, join your host Jeffrey Palermo as he discusses continuous integration.

With the ease of setting up triggered builds on build servers (such as Azure Pipelines or GitHub actions), it can be easy to think that once the documentation of the product is followed, we are done — but that's not the case. The DevOps tools currently on the market have gotten really good at making some of the steps easy, but, there are other steps where it's still up to you to put them in place.

In light of this, Jeffrey provides listeners with an overview of continuous integration, its three major stages, and some of the rules of thumb that you need to follow to find success.

Whether you use Azure Pipelines or another tool, this episode will provide you with the information you need in order to make sure you have put everything in place that you need to.

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, the new podcast Architect Tips, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:30] About today's solo episode.

[2:46] The dichotomy of quality and productivity, and the dynamic of 'technical debt.'

[7:21] What happens when continuous integration is actually followed (and the benefits that result from it).

[7:59] An overview of the three stages of continuous integration: the private build, the integration build, and the first deployment.

[9:20] An overview of the first stage: the private build.

[12:17] A word from The Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[12:48] The second stage (or phase) of continuous integration: the integration build.

[15:24] The third stage: the first deployment.

[19:30] A review of the three stages of continuous integration and the three most important questions to answer.

[20:47] What the 'commit phase' is.

[21:06] Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Azure DevOps Podcast!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 150: "Capers Jones on Software Quality and Productivity"

Applied Software Measurement: Global Analysis of Productivity and Quality, by Capers Jones

Continuous Delivery: Reliable Software Releases through Build, Test, and Deployment Automation, by Jez Humble and David Farley

Continuous Integration: Improving Software Quality and Reducing Risk, by Paul M. Duvall, Steve Matyas, and Andrew Glover

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

In today's solo episode, join your host Jeffrey Palermo as he discusses continuous integration.

With the ease of setting up triggered builds on build servers (such as Azure Pipelines or GitHub actions), it can be easy to think that once the documentation of the product is followed, we are done — but that's not the case. The DevOps tools currently on the market have gotten really good at making some of the steps easy, but, there are other steps where it's still up to you to put them in place. 

In light of this, Jeffrey provides listeners with an overview of continuous integration, its three major stages, and some of the rules of thumb that you need to follow to find success.

Whether you use Azure Pipelines or another tool, this episode will provide you with the information you need in order to make sure you have put everything in place that you need to.

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, the new podcast Architect Tips, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:30] About today's solo episode.

[2:46] The dichotomy of quality and productivity, and the dynamic of 'technical debt.'

[7:21] What happens when continuous integration is actually followed (and the benefits that result from it).

[7:59] An overview of the three stages of continuous integration: the private build, the integration build, and the first deployment.

[9:20] An overview of the first stage: the private build.

[12:17] A word from The Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[12:48] The second stage (or phase) of continuous integration: the integration build.

[15:24] The third stage: the first deployment.

[19:30] A review of the three stages of continuous integration and the three most important questions to answer.

[20:47] What the 'commit phase' is.

[21:06] Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Azure DevOps Podcast!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 150: "Capers Jones on Software Quality and Productivity"

Applied Software Measurement: Global Analysis of Productivity and Quality, by Capers Jones

Continuous Delivery: Reliable Software Releases through Build, Test, and Deployment Automation, by Jez Humble and David Farley

Continuous Integration: Improving Software Quality and Reducing Risk, by Paul M. Duvall, Steve Matyas, and Andrew Glover

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

This week, Jeffrey is rejoined by return guest, Scott Hunter! Scott is the Director of Program Management for .NET at Microsoft.

When Scott first joined Microsoft back in 2007, he was working on the ASP.NET team. As the Director of Program Management of .NET, Scott and his team build .NET Core, .NET Framework, ASP.NET, Entity Framework, managed languages (C#/F#/VB), as well as the Web and .NET Tooling for Visual Studio.

The last time Scott was on the podcast, he and Jeffrey spoke about .NET 5. Now, less than a year later, the release of .NET 6 is coming up. In this episode, Scott speaks about the changes that he and his team have been working on developing, what developers should currently be paying attention to in preparation for the release of .NET 6, the biggest changes from .NET 5 to .NET 6 that developers can look forward to, and his insights on .NET MAUI, C# 10.0, .NET Upgrade Assistant, Visual Studio 2022, and more! If you're a developer awaiting the release of .NET 6 or are currently experimenting with .NET 5, you should be tuning in to today's conversation!

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, the new podcast Architect Tips, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:23] About today's episode with return guest, Scott Hunter!

[1:35] Jeffrey welcomes Scott to the podcast.

[2:14] What developers should be paying attention to as the .NET 6 release approaches?

[5:16] Will .NET Upgrade Assistant be built in to Visual Studio 2022 or is it a side tool?

[6:16] Does .NET Upgrade Assistant function on all of the recent .NET versions?

[6:36] For those with extensive web form applications, does .NET Upgrade Assistant know that you're on your own or will it convert the rest of the solution and leave the web forms? Scott gives his recommendations for web form customers.

[7:37] Scott shares what one of their big goals are as a team for .NET 6 and his recommendations for customers looking to go from .NET 5 to 6.

[9:05] Scott talks about the tooling experience they're trying to create with .NET 6 and one of the biggest changes on the tooling side in the .NET 6 space: hot reload.

[15:09] A word from The Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[15:40] How Scott and his team are working toward making .NET more approachable for all developers.

[20:40] How many of the changes that Scott has talked about will be making the .NET 6 release?

[23:05] Jeffrey and Scott talk .NET MAUI and building mobile apps.

[29:50] Leading up to the .NET Conf, what should developers be paying attention to?

[31:30] Would Scott say that .NET 6 is Microsoft's biggest release in a while?

[32:58] Jeffrey thanks Scott for joining the show!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 119: "Scott Hunter on .NET 5"

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 24: "Scott Hunter on DevOps Capabilities in Azure"

.NET 6 Preview

.NET Upgrade Assistant

Visual Studio 2022 Preview

Blazor

C# 9.0

"C# 10.0: Introducing Global Usings"

.NET MAUI

Xamarin

.NET Conf 2021

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

This week, Jeffrey is rejoined by return guest, Scott Hunter! Scott is the Director of Program Management for .NET at Microsoft. 

When Scott first joined Microsoft back in 2007, he was working on the ASP.NET team. As the Director of Program Management of .NET, Scott and his team build .NET Core, .NET Framework, ASP.NET, Entity Framework, managed languages (C#/F#/VB), as well as the Web and .NET Tooling for Visual Studio.

The last time Scott was on the podcast, he and Jeffrey spoke about .NET 5. Now, less than a year later, the release of .NET 6 is coming up. In this episode, Scott speaks about the changes that he and his team have been working on developing, what developers should currently be paying attention to in preparation for the release of .NET 6, the biggest changes from .NET 5 to .NET 6 that developers can look forward to, and his insights on .NET MAUI, C# 10.0, .NET Upgrade Assistant, Visual Studio 2022, and more! If you're a developer awaiting the release of .NET 6 or are currently experimenting with .NET 5, you should be tuning in to today's conversation!

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, the new podcast Architect Tips, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:23] About today's episode with return guest, Scott Hunter!

[1:35] Jeffrey welcomes Scott to the podcast.

[2:14] What developers should be paying attention to as the .NET 6 release approaches?

[5:16] Will .NET Upgrade Assistant be built in to Visual Studio 2022 or is it a side tool?

[6:16] Does .NET Upgrade Assistant function on all of the recent .NET versions?

[6:36] For those with extensive web form applications, does .NET Upgrade Assistant know that you're on your own or will it convert the rest of the solution and leave the web forms? Scott gives his recommendations for web form customers.

[7:37] Scott shares what one of their big goals are as a team for .NET 6 and his recommendations for customers looking to go from .NET 5 to 6.

[9:05] Scott talks about the tooling experience they're trying to create with .NET 6 and one of the biggest changes on the tooling side in the .NET 6 space: hot reload.

[15:09] A word from The Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[15:40] How Scott and his team are working toward making .NET more approachable for all developers.

[20:40] How many of the changes that Scott has talked about will be making the .NET 6 release?

[23:05] Jeffrey and Scott talk .NET MAUI and building mobile apps.

[29:50] Leading up to the .NET Conf, what should developers be paying attention to?

[31:30] Would Scott say that .NET 6 is Microsoft's biggest release in a while?

[32:58] Jeffrey thanks Scott for joining the show!

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 119: "Scott Hunter on .NET 5"

The Azure DevOps Podcast Ep. 24: "Scott Hunter on DevOps Capabilities in Azure"

.NET 6 Preview

.NET Upgrade Assistant

Visual Studio 2022 Preview

Blazor

C# 9.0

"C# 10.0: Introducing Global Usings"

.NET MAUI

Xamarin

.NET Conf 2021

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Joining the podcast this week is Amanda Silver! Amanda is the Corporate Vice President (CVP) of Product for Microsoft's Developer Division which includes the Visual Studio family of products, .NET, TypeScript, and Azure developer platforms. She has been key to Microsoft's transformation to contribute to open source with the introduction of TypeScript, Visual Studio Code, and the acquisition of both Xamarin and GitHub. She believes that a tight digital feedback loop with zero distance between end-users and engineering teams is a critical element of great product development.

In this episode, Amanda discusses what's coming next for senior and junior developers alike. She shares her experiences on Microsoft's Developer Division; what developers can look forward to regarding Visual Studio 2022, Azure PaaS, GitHub Codespaces, Visual Studio Code, and more. She also speaks about what the industry as a whole can do to improve developer and user satisfaction, attract more potential developers to the field, and how we can make education more accessible. Amanda has invaluable insights on many different topics that you'll want to tune in for!

"We need to talk to our customers [and] the people we aspire to be our customers every single day — that's the only way that we can make sure that we're building products that people love and use." — Amanda Silver

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, the new podcast Architect Tips, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:18] About today's episode with Amanda Silver.

[2:00] Jeffrey welcomes Amanda to the podcast!

[2:08] Amanda speaks about her career journey thus far and what has led her to her current position at Microsoft.

[5:21] How Amanda's team is organized at Microsoft, the work that they do, and the practices they engage in with their users.

[9:37] Amanda shares her thoughts on the importance of developers, how developers can become more effective in their roles, what the industry can do to attract more people into the field, and more.

[12:29] How the industry is helping developers enter the industry quicker and what can be improved on in the industry to lower the barrier to entry.

[16:30] About the upcoming release of Visual Studio and the recent preview.

[18:57] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[19:29] Amanda describes machine learning and AI and how it can help developers.

[22:33] Static analysis vs. probabilistic analysis.

[26:09] Amanda describes the vision for Visual Studio Code.

[30:02] Has Visual Studio Code become the most popular coding text editor?

[30:58] There is a lot of Visual Studio Code in GitHub Codespaces. Amanda explains how these products fit together.

[35:12] About the current work Microsoft is doing regarding Azure PaaS services and the changes that developers can look forward to in the future.

[37:24] Are containers the future?

[38:32] About Azure Arc, how it is designed, and what this means.

[39:18] Jeffrey thanks Amanda Silver for joining the podcast.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Amanda Silver on GitHub

Amanda Silver's LinkedIn

.NET 6.0

Hot Reload

Visual Studio 2022 Preview

GitHub Codespaces

Visual Studio Code

Azure PaaS servicesKubernetes

Azure Arc

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Joining the podcast this week is Amanda Silver! Amanda is the Corporate Vice President (CVP) of Product for Microsoft's Developer Division which includes the Visual Studio family of products, .NET, TypeScript, and Azure developer platforms. She has been key to Microsoft's transformation to contribute to open source with the introduction of TypeScript, Visual Studio Code, and the acquisition of both Xamarin and GitHub. She believes that a tight digital feedback loop with zero distance between end-users and engineering teams is a critical element of great product development.

In this episode, Amanda discusses what's coming next for senior and junior developers alike. She shares her experiences on Microsoft's Developer Division; what developers can look forward to regarding Visual Studio 2022, Azure PaaS, GitHub Codespaces, Visual Studio Code, and more. She also speaks about what the industry as a whole can do to improve developer and user satisfaction, attract more potential developers to the field, and how we can make education more accessible. Amanda has invaluable insights on many different topics that you'll want to tune in for!

"We need to talk to our customers [and] the people we aspire to be our customers every single day — that's the only way that we can make sure that we're building products that people love and use." — Amanda Silver

Topics of Discussion:

[:14] About The Azure DevOps Podcast, Clear Measure, the new podcast Architect Tips, and Jeffrey's offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:18] About today's episode with Amanda Silver.

[2:00] Jeffrey welcomes Amanda to the podcast!

[2:08] Amanda speaks about her career journey thus far and what has led her to her current position at Microsoft.

[5:21] How Amanda's team is organized at Microsoft, the work that they do, and the practices they engage in with their users.

[9:37] Amanda shares her thoughts on the importance of developers, how developers can become more effective in their roles, what the industry can do to attract more people into the field, and more.

[12:29] How the industry is helping developers enter the industry quicker and what can be improved on in the industry to lower the barrier to entry.

[16:30] About the upcoming release of Visual Studio and the recent preview.

[18:57] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast's sponsor: Clear Measure.

[19:29] Amanda describes machine learning and AI and how it can help developers.

[22:33] Static analysis vs. probabilistic analysis.

[26:09] Amanda describes the vision for Visual Studio Code.

[30:02] Has Visual Studio Code become the most popular coding text editor?

[30:58] There is a lot of Visual Studio Code in GitHub Codespaces. Amanda explains how these products fit together.

[35:12] About the current work Microsoft is doing regarding Azure PaaS services and the changes that developers can look forward to in the future.

[37:24] Are containers the future?

[38:32] About Azure Arc, how it is designed, and what this means.

[39:18] Jeffrey thanks Amanda Silver for joining the podcast.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Architect Tips — New video podcast!

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

bit.ly/dotnetdevopsebook — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo's Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Amanda Silver on GitHub

Amanda Silver's LinkedIn

.NET 6.0

Hot Reload

Visual Studio 2022 Preview

GitHub Codespaces

Visual Studio Code

Azure PaaS servicesKubernetes

Azure Arc

Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.