In this podcast episode, Dario Betti interviews Jack Philbin, the CEO and co-founder of Vibes, a mobile engagement platform. They discuss the evolution of mobile engagement, the role of AI in personalization and spam prevention, and the potential of RCS and mobile wallets. Jack shares insights from his 25 years in the industry, including memorable moments and the growth of Vibes. He emphasizes the importance of staying ahead of the market and the need for marketers to embrace mobile engagement. The episode concludes with Jack's advice for those entering the mobile engagement market.