Five years ago, Garen Armstrong was running a $5M roofing company. Today, he’s the CEO of Shamrock Roofing & Construction, one of America’s Top 100 contractors, doing over $70M across 18 locations in 10 states.
Garen’s journey is both entrepreneurial and personal — he’s a serial entrepreneur, philanthropist, and heart transplant survivor whose leadership philosophy has shaped Shamrock’s culture of loyalty and growth.
In this episode, Garen and Mauricio dive deep into:
- Culture & Leadership: How Garen’s health journey transformed him into a servant leader and built Shamrock’s winning culture.
- Marketing at Scale: Why Shamrock invests in an in-house team, spends three months marketing before entering a new market, and gets its best ROI from Google Ads, LSAs, and reviews.
- The Power of Reviews & Content: How Shamrock creates thousands of local reviews and constant video content to build trust with increasingly educated consumers.
- AI & Trussi.ai: Why Garen believes contractors must “evolve or dissolve” with AI, and how Shamrock’s self-built CRM (Trussi.ai) is already saving $150K+ annually while reshaping operations.
- Call Center Mastery: How Shamrock built an in-house call center, trained eight reps on roofing knowledge, and layered AI into lead scoring, routing, and follow-up.
- Expansion Lessons: What Garen learned from opening 18 markets, the mistakes he made along the way, and why focus — “burgers and fries” — beats overcommitting to too many services.
Whether you’re a $2M contractor trying to expand into a second city, or you’re curious about how AI is already being used in roofing, this episode delivers a blueprint for scaling smart, building culture, and future-proofing your company.
📝 Episode Notes / Key Takeaways
- Surround yourself with loyal people. Loyalty + culture is what holds a fast-scaling business together.
- Your health changes your leadership. Garen’s heart transplant shifted him from “General Patton” to servant leadership.
- Invest in marketing early. Shamrock spends 3 months marketing before opening new markets.
- Best ROI today = Google Ads + LSAs + reviews. Traditional TV is dying, OTT is still hard to track.
- Control your ecosystem. Shamrock runs marketing in-house, builds its own software, and trains its own people.
- Reviews win trust. Thousands of local reviews (with photos and PM names) directly drive calls and sales.
- AI is no longer optional. Shamrock’s Trussi.ai CRM + AI workflows save $150K/year and accelerate everything from content creation to call center operations.
- Call center = conversion engine. Eight in-house reps, AI-integrated with Nextiva, ensure no lead is wasted.
- Not all customers are good customers. Learn to qualify and walk away from tire-kickers.
- Stay focused. Expansion mistakes came from overcommitting — success came from sticking to “roofs and gutters.”
- Marketing spend = 5% of revenue. New market entries may need 6–7%, but consistent investment is non-negotiable.
Timestraps:
00:00 Introduction
01:18 From $5M to $70M in 5 Years
03:20 Culture Built on Loyalty (and a Heart Transplant)
04:19 Early Adopter of Digital Marketing
08:28 Building Trussi.ai: AI + Roofing CRM
10:37 From Patton to Servant Leader
12:59 Creating Leaders at Scale
16:50 From Forklift Driver to $500K Salesman
17:45 Why Shamrock Keeps Marketing In-House
21:00 AI for Content & Social
24:32 Marketing Spend: $150K a Month
26:30 Reviews That Name Names
29:41 How To Recruit People
31:20 Marketing Before You Open
34:28 Consumers are more edicated than ever
37:03 AI: Evolve or Dissolve
38:44 Safety Over $150k/year
40:38 Bringing the Call Center In-House
43:55 AI in Sales Training
45:50 Maintaining Culture Across 18 Markets
47:17 Biggest Expansion Mistakes
48:36 Marketing Budget = 5% of Revenue
50:33 Where to Find Garen
Links & Resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegarenarmstrong/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/garen.armstrong
Website: https://www.garenarmstrong.com/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garenarmstrong/
Company website: https://www.shamrockroofer.com/