Hot take: AI isn’t killing creativity, it’s exposing how emotionally lazy founders have become.
Because most people use AI to move faster, not to feel deeper.
AI can either make you more human… or quietly turn you into a productivity zombie who panics when the tools shut off.

Then I met Ziah Orion from Deep Gem Interactive.
And instead of talking dashboards and prompts, we went somewhere unexpected.
He uses generative music to help people process grief, identity, love, even their inner archetypes.
Think songs for your dad, your partner, your future self.
Not content. Connection tech.

Founder takeaway: if your product only saves time, you’re competing on features.
If it helps people feel seen, regulated, or grounded, you’re competing on meaning.

So here’s the real question.

What part of your life or business are you trying to automate because you’re avoiding actually feeling it?

And here’s the twist.
This interview turned into less of a formal conversation and more of two curious humans going deep.
We barely scratched the surface of Ziah’s actual work, so we’re absolutely bringing him back to go deep on what he’s building at Deep Gem Interactive.

If you’re a founder, builder, or creator who wants to use AI for human growth, not just speed, this one’s for you.
We talk tools, identity, discipline, and how to build without burning out your nervous system.
If AI feels exciting and terrifying at the same time, aiforfounders.co is your weekly grounding ritual.
Real tools, real builders, no hype loops, just what actually works.
Subscribe at aiforfounders.co before your competitors copy the insights and pretend they discovered them first.

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