For the third instalment of TTLP’s AI Series 2.0, we wanted to bring in a tech leader with a different outlook on AI,  CTO and co-founder of PensionBee and self-confessed AI sceptic, Jonathan Lister-Parsons. 

This episode marks Jonathan’s second feature on TTLP, and this time he joins Gareth and Kerensa discuss not only PensionBee and how they transformed the pension market, but also Jonathan’s unique perspective on AI innovation. Reinforcing the fact that AI exists as “the output of human input”, Jonathan explains the current AI ‘hype cycle’ and why an AI apocalypse is not on the cards.

From his role in bringing pensions to the forefront of table-top discussions, to his assurance in the stability of a human-centred labour market, this episode is perfect for leaders who want to understand how to harness technology in a safe, responsible, and genuinely impactful way.

Time stamps 

• What excites Jonathan most about GenAI? (02:28) 
• Jonathan’s favourite AI tools (05:20) 
• Innovating the pension industry (08:55) 
• Balancing dynamics between co-founders (17:42) 
• Defining AI (22:20) 
• How has GenAI improved PensionBee’s vision (28:31) 
• Does Jonathan fear an AI Apocalypse? (39:00) 
• AI in education (42:48) 
• Regulating FinTech (47:12) 
• Security considerations for GenAI (49:51) 
• The future of PensionBee (56:00) 

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