The Tech Leaders Podcast

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  • #135: Thales' Chief AI Officer Ajay Chakravarthy, AI on the Battlefield: Where Should We Draw the Line?

    Join us this week on the Tech Leaders Podcast, where Gareth talks to Ajay Chakravarthy, Chief AI Officer at Thales. Ajay shares practical insights on leadership, deploying AI in constrained environments, human oversight, measuring returns, and preparing workers for change.  

    What happens when AI decisions have real-world consequences? From AI-enabled drones in Ukraine to the future of autonomous military systems, Ajay explores AI in high-stakes environments. Drawing on his work across defence, policing and government, he discusses frugal AI, AI-supported decision-making, and why transparency, ethics and human oversight are essential when the stakes are high.

    Timestamps:

    • AI use cases in defence and government (12:30) 
    • Why the UK has fewer globally recognized AI frontier-model companies (16: 03) 
    • Frugal AI systems (18:34)  
    • The future of AI (21:05) 
    • AI in the defence sector (23:20) 
    • AI autonomy and agentic systems  (27:15) 
    • AlphaFold and biology (35:00) 
    • Battlefield Technology & AI in warfare (37:40) 
    • How Thales uses AI  (44:40) 
    • What worries & excites Ajay most? (53:20) 

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    1 hr 1 min
  • #134: Daniel Hulme, Global Chief AI Officer at WPP, on Machine Consciousness and the Future of AI Agents

    Seven years after becoming the first-ever guest on The Tech Leaders Podcast, Dr Daniel Hulme returns to share his thinking on how AI has evolved, where it’s heading, and what organisations should be focusing on now. 

    As Global Chief AI Officer at WPP and founder of Satalia, Daniel has spent nearly three decades building AI systems and exploring some of the biggest questions around intelligence, consciousness and safe machine behaviour. 

    In this episode, we unpack why many businesses are approaching AI in the wrong way, why chasing quick wins can be a trap, and where AI could have the biggest impact, from supply chains and marketing optimisation to governance and agent testing. 

    Daniel also shares how WPP is using AI as a creative superpower, including a model trained on its own creative expertise to generate award-worthy ideas and help teams think bigger. 

    Timestamps:

    • Satalia Take over by WPP (11:45) 
    • Will AI kill agencies or make the best ones stronger? (16:28) 
    •  Inside WPP: Creative, Production, Media & Enterprise (20:30) 
    • What advice would you give to entrepreneurs to put foundations in place to grow their brand using AI technology? (21: 45) 
    • AI Controls and Governance (24:10)  
    • Multi Agent Reasoning (29:35) 
    • What will the biggest societal impact of AI be within the next 5 years? (32:47) 
    • Is AI conscious? (38:56) 

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    49 min
  • #133: Mike Fitzgerald, Serial entrepreneur and Founder of Senttr, on Digital Workers and the Future of Enterprise AI

    Join us this week for The Tech Leaders Podcast, where Gareth sits down with Mike Fitzgerald, Founder of Senttr. Mike shares lessons on managing AI estates, evolving consulting practices, and the skills needed for the future workforce.

    On this episode, Mike and Gareth discuss the importance of governance, privacy and security when deploying hundreds or thousands of AI agents, strategies for managing enterprise AI costs and ensuring predictable licensing models, and what the future holds for AI pricing models, and the evolving MSP ecosystem.

    • Personal journey: From Ireland to founding Senttr (04:58)
    • The problem with Software Licensing  (12:03)
    • Building Businesses Around Unsolved Problems (15:21)
    • AI Governance Challenges (26:27)
    • Cost Management of Enterprise AI (30:19)
    • Will AI Take Our Jobs? (39:11)
    • The Evolution of IT Consulting (45:39)
    • Advice to a 21-Year-Old Self (50:04)

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    56 min
  • Tesco VS Broadcom Special #2: Barry Pilling, Principal ITAM Consultant and VMware Specialist at bedigital

    Join us this week for a Tech Leaders Podcast Special, where Gareth sits down with Barry Pilling, Principal ITAM Consultant and VMware Specialist at bedigital to discuss the latest developments in the ongoing Tesco VS Broadcom court case. 

    On this episode, Gareth and Barry discuss updates to the case, Broadcom’s wider business strategy, and the possible impact on future customer-vendor relationships across the industry. 

    Timestamps: 

    • Trial date set, and Tesco’s amended claim (1:32) 
    • Is Broadcom market dominant? (5:10) 
    • Trial timetable and legal strategies (9:31) 
    • The Broadcom business model (13:41) 
    • The broader impact on customer/vendor relationships (16:08) 
    • Broadcom’s 1 year offer, and Computacenter’s involvement (21:04) 
    • Key takeaways (25:37) 

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    31 min
  • Google Cloud Summit Special: John Abel, MD, Office of the CTO at Google Cloud, and Alex Rutter, EMEA MD for AI at Google Cloud

    Join us this week for a Tech Leaders Podcast Special, where Gareth sits down with John Abel, MD, Office of the CTO, and Alex Rutter, EMEA MD for AI, fresh from the Google Cloud Summit in London.

    On this episode Gareth, John and Alex discuss how organisations can effectively deploy Agents, future skills the workforce will need to use Agentic AI, and how to simulate a virtual board meeting.

    Timestamps:

    • John Abel Introduction (1:25)
    • Agentic AI Adoption and Data Readiness (3:39)
    • Future Skills – John’s take (12:09)
    • How to move beyond “Pilot Mode” (15:50)
    • Alex Rutter Introduction (19:16)
    • The Integrated Google Tech Stack (22:50)
    • AI Automation vs Human Oversight (27:55)
    • Is Agentic AI Adoption Maturing? (30:48)
    • Future Skills – Alex’s take (35:48)
    • Data Quality (38:35)
    • The UK’s AI Position (41:01)

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    46 min
  • #130: Nicola Mendelsohn CBE, Head of Global Business Group, Meta: “Get messy with the tools.”

    Join us this week for The Tech Leaders’ Podcast, where Gareth sits down with Nicola Mendelsohn, Head of Global Business Group at Meta, at Meta Conversations 2026 in the historic Methodist Central Hall in the heart of Westminster. 

    Nicola talks about the new WhatsApp for Business, the technical challenges around it, the importance of data safeguarding and the role of Meta’s Chief Privacy Officer. 

    On this episode Nicola and Gareth discuss the challenges around Enterprise AI adoption and governance, and her advice to UK businesses. 

    Timestamps: 

    • Introduction (1:58) 
    • Meta and Enterprise Messaging (4:30) 
    • Technical Challenges (14:51) 
    • Data Safeguarding and the Chief Privacy Officer (17:52) 
    • Enterprise AI Adoption and Governance (18:50) 
    • Advice for UK Businesses (26:55) 

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    34 min
  • #129: Jane Mustoe, Senior Technical Director and Head of Innovation Labs, Tesco: “AI will pop up everywhere, no area will be immune.”

    Join us this week for The Tech Leaders’ Podcast, where Gareth sits down with Jane Mustoe, Senior Technical Director and Head of Innovation Labs at Tesco. Jane talks about her love of transformative technologies, and how Tesco are actively applying them. 

    On this episode, Jane and Gareth discuss drones, robotics, staff less stores, and how AI will augment, not replace humans. 

    Timestamps: 

    • Introduction and the Credit Crunch (2:25) 
    • Tesco Innovation Labs: Magic Tills and Digital Assistants (17:58) 
    • Innovation Culture and Digital Twins (23:10) 
    • AI Applications: Robotics, Dynamic Pricing and Waste Reduction (30:53) 
    • AI Usage, Governance and Hiring (38:50) 
    • The Future of Tech, and Advice for 21-year-old Jane (47:45) 

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    52 min
  • #128: Cathy Mauzaize, President EMEA, ServiceNow: “Technology only matters when it translates into impact for people.”

    Join us this week for The Tech Leaders’ Podcast, where Gareth sits down with Cathy Mauzaize, President of EMEA at ServiceNow. Cathy talks about her journey to ServiceNow via some of the biggest tech companies in the world, unpicking the hype and reality around AI Agents, and why the Middle East is embracing modern tech faster that Europe.

    On this episode Cathy and Gareth discuss how companies survive in a modern, global economy, how AI will impact human learning, and a nugget of advice from Microsoft CEO, Satya Nadella.


    Timestamps:

    • Introduction and early days (2:07)
    • Legacy Tech and the Middle East (13:00)
    • Priorities for Enterprise (21:55)
    • AI Agents: Hype and Reality (25:48)
    • AI and Human Learning (32:05)
    • Commercial Impacts of AI (38:00)
    • ITAM and AI Agents (45:43)
    • Advice for 21-year-old Cathy (49:20)


    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    55 min
  • #127 Special Episode: The Tesco v Broadcom Case Explained: Why Enterprise IT Leaders Should Pay Attention

    This episode of The Tech Leaders Podcast takes a different format from our usual leadership interviews. 

    The recent acquisition of VMware by Broadcom has sent significant ripples through the enterprise IT landscape. As one of the most widely deployed infrastructure platforms in the world, VMware sits at the heart of many global technology estates. The commercial changes that have followed the acquisition have prompted widespread discussion across the market. 

    The ongoing court case involving Tesco and Broadcom has brought those issues into sharp focus. What may appear to be a contractual dispute raises much broader questions around platform dependency, vendor discretion and how resilient enterprise IT contracts are when ownership changes hands. 

    In this special episode, Gareth Davies is joined by licensing specialist Barry Pilling to unpack the case, explore the latest developments, and discuss what it could mean for enterprise software licensing and commercial governance going forward. 

    For CIOs, technology leaders and procurement teams responsible for major vendor relationships, this conversation looks at the wider implications, and the questions organisations should be asking right now. 


    Timestamps: 

    • Introduction and Barry’s Background (2:04) 
    • VMWare and the Broadcom Acquisition (5:00) 
    • The Rise of Virtualisation (8:50) 
    • The Tesco Dispute Background (12:38) 
    • Organisations Exposure to Licensing Risk (22:45) 
    • Other Broadcom Cases (29:22) 
    • Death of the Middleman? (37:51) 
    • Potential Consequences and Advice for VMWare Customers (41:49) 
    • Recent Developments (47:30) 

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    59 min
  • #126: Rob Morris, Co-CEO at Siemens Mobility (UK & Ireland): “UK Railway is the safest in the world.”

    Join us this week for The Tech Leaders’ Podcast, where Gareth sits down with Rob Morris, Co-CEO UK and Ireland at Siemens Mobility. Rob talks about his journey to the Railways via mining, power stations and London 2012, how Siemens are managing a £340M investment, and the challenges of maintaining and upgrading the oldest rail network in the world. 

    On this episode Rob and Gareth discuss digitising the railways, how AI will be employed on trains, and how in another life Rob could have been an architect. 

    Timestamps: 

    • Introduction and Good Leadership (2:11) 
    • From Delivery to Senior Management (7:58) 
    • Siemens and the Railways (12:00) 
    • Digitising the Rail Network, and Building the Elizabeth Line (18:30) 
    • Technology on the Railways (32:15) 
    • Advice for 21-year-old Rob (41:20) 

    https://www.bedigitaluk.com/

    50 min

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