The Tech Trek

AI vs Human Nature: The Security Dilemma


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Desiree Lee, one of the Business CTOs at Armis, joins Amir to unpack one of the toughest realities in cybersecurity: the biggest risks aren’t always technical, they’re human. From phishing and deepfakes to the way AI is reshaping both attackers’ and defenders’ playbooks, Desiree shares hard-won insights on what companies should actually prioritize. If you’re a tech leader navigating the expanding attack surface, this episode will sharpen how you think about security in the AI era.


Key Takeaways

• Most breaches stem from human behavior, not lack of technology.

• Attackers adopt AI faster because there’s no downside for them—defenders must catch up.

• Fundamentals like patching and asset inventory still make or break resilience.

• AI can reduce noise for security teams by spotting patterns in overwhelming data.

• Small and midsize businesses will benefit from AI-driven tools that lower the barrier to effective security.


Timestamped Highlights

00:34 — How Armis evolved from asset inventory to full security solutions

03:30 — Why security failures are more about psychology than technology

07:32 — The deepfake CFO story and why training alone can’t solve phishing risks

09:18 — Why most enterprises struggle with basics like patching and automation

11:41 — Where AI gives defenders an edge in processing massive data sets

18:33 — Practical ways AI can ease alert fatigue and vulnerability management

21:03 — The overlooked need to label assets by business criticality


A Moment Worth Remembering

“There is no penalty on the attacking side for embracing AI. It’s only good things for them. So they will adopt it quickly.” — Desiree Lee


Resources Mentioned

Armis: armis.com

Desiree Lee on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/desireedlee


Pro Tips

Tagging assets with their business criticality is one of the simplest, highest-impact steps companies can take. It turns asset inventories from static lists into real decision-making tools for AI-driven defense.


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